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Ah, the little house on the Beechwood.estate...how spot on & tomrly you always are, Gary !
ReplyDeleteTimely...
DeleteCarolyn, I don’t think the little house on the Beechwood estate will be nearly as big as this ex-council house on The Green!
DeleteYes I thought no 1 The Green too but as they are not due to move for 2 weeks maybe it is Ed & Emma’s?
DeleteLovely breeze sitting out today 🤗 rain coming in tomorrow l believe so having got washing including bedroom curtains out to dry - enjoying!
Will Clarrie, Eddie, Joe, Ed, Emma, Keira and George all fit in to No 1 if needs be? I doubt it...
ReplyDelete👍GG!
ReplyDeleteJoe's moving to 'the other side', as for the others, we'll have to see what Oliver has to say.
ReplyDeleteArcherphile, I don't intend to stop listening because I find it very engaging at the moment.
Helen & Rob I found too close for comfort but stayed with it.
It was similar to Jim's story for me, something we hear about in the news.
Emma & brothers is pure drama and I am personally detached.
Glad to hear that Basia (and others on the older blog). It puzzles me why people are saying they will switch off for this particular story.
DeleteGiven that Tim’s threatening of Ed was nasty, but not nearly so bad as listening to the drip, drip, drip of Helen’s long torment.
Perhaps they think Ed will go off the rails or worse plus fallout and blame game.
DeleteIt occurred yesterday that Eddie, Clarrie and Joe are moving out soon and had things not gone toes up Ed and Emma were moving. We have not heard what will be happening to Grange Farm. Has Oliver found new tenants? Is he moving back himself? Will it be deserted? Answers on a postcard!!😊
DeleteThe complaints about this story are mostly about the relentless misery piled onto the Grundys and on to us the listeners, I think.
DeleteIndeed when was the last 'happy' story aired which lasted more than one episode?
Working back we've had: Ed getting mixed up with a potentially violent individual (or maybe gang), Jim's childhood sexual abuse, Elizabeth's depression, Jennifer losing her home, Freddie's imprisonment, and that's only in the past year!
Possibly Harrison's and Fallon's wedding?
Excellent acting last night particularly by the actor playing Emma but I don’t really feel convinced by Adam.
ReplyDeleteHe speaks so slowly that I think he may nod off at any time.
I wasn't able to listen to the Omnibus at all yesterday and only caught up with last nights episode when in the bath later.
DeleteHowever on Friday when listening to Adam and his drawn out delivery to Ed I was screaming internally at that dreadful voice. The worst I have ever felt regarding Adam Macy and his very irritating voice.
So glad to read that it is not just me that is irritated by Adam’s voice - it just drones on and on grrr😡
DeleteMaybe we will be the ones nodding off!!
DeleteHe doesn't seem able to change his slow voice from one emotion to another - he hardly ever alters the tone or pitch, so it’s hard to tell when he’s pleased, angry, sad or affectionate - it’s always the same boring drawl.
DeleteAt least it will come in handy when the baby arrives. Put Adam on bedtime story duty and it'll drop off in no time ; )
DeleteSee last post on old blog re “FIONA” on tv this morning....
ReplyDeleteThe "little" house at Beechwood, to me suddenly has become a Tardis - and not quite as I imagined. It now has 3 bedrooms + a garage and the new sofa will fit into the lounge along with the coffee table + Joe's chair (theoretical only but agreed with Clarrie).
ReplyDeleteEd said that they were due to exchange on Friday, so only then will the deposit be paid (I think), so no loss, apart from the reservation fee.
There is also the survey fee done for the mortgage company which will have been paid for and will be non-refundable, as well as solicitors' fees. The reservation fee is returned but the solicitor's costs will not, which, in my son's case (going on at the moment,) is the same as the reservation fee -£500.The survey was £350.
DeleteI am surprised as per Archerphile's post about FB Archers Addicts, (I don't do FB), as to many no longer going to continue to listen.
ReplyDeleteMy only comment is that they can't be Archers Addicts.
I do get bored at times, but I need my fix, regardless, and listen through the bad and good.
I personally am intrigued as to what will happen next.
Isn't that No.1 The Green?
ReplyDeleteIndeed it is!
DeleteYes.
DeleteOh, thought it was the little Beechwood hse.
DeleteReally puzzled about why some listeners want to stop listening to the current SLs. One wonders what they DO want, what they expect.( maybe it's just the perverse joy of complaining).
ReplyDeleteI so think the same. There are some interesting, but also infuriating S/L's but I still love them. 💟
DeleteSorry can't agree caolyn (with the greatest respect 🙂 As I said above, it is the depressing tone of the storylines which people are getting fed up with.
DeleteMy theory is that soaps are for the 'masses.' Wasn't there a Roman Emperor who was supposed to have said, when asked how he kept order, "Bread and Circuses."
If people are preoccupied with soaps (the Circuses as it were) they are not talking about more important things. The more depressing and 'bad' the soap is the more people think "Well at least my life isn't as bad as that!' Therefore making people feel good above themselves no matter what their condition is. I'm not a Sociologist at all so this is just my theory. 🙂
Grudgingly, have to admit you have a point, Spicy ! I just don't find TA that soapy.Most people's lives aren't plain sailing & sunshine all the way. I don't want to be overdosed with cricket, fetes, cake making, gossip in the shop, sausages, cheese & herbal leys. It's not a documentary, it's a drama.
DeleteI am now conditioned to listen to TA because if I didn’t I would have nothing to chat about on this blog.
ReplyDeleteI could meander on about something. Once At a party we played a game and for my turn I had to talk about 🍅 tomatoes for three minutes. I did the wittering and bored every one rigid. I had consumed a fair bit of 🍷.
The Helen coercion story did generate a lot of angst and it did go on far too long, but I’d didn’t stop listening. I think it was during this S/L that I joined the old BBC blog.
I do hope the Emma/Ed situation will be resolved more quickly than Helen’s.
The Helen/Rob situation, was done in real time and rightly so.
DeleteMy favourite, which was also a lengthy ongoing story, was Jack Woolley and his dementia. This was done so well, IMHO.
I remember Ian helping Peggy clearing up cereal off the kitchen floor in The Lodge, and Roy finding Jack in the loos at The Bull on bonfire night. Poor Jack thought he was back in WW2. That was so well done.
DeleteI remember the scene with Jack in the loos on bonfire night as being with Ed. I think it was at a time when Ed was 'going off the rails' (!), and showed that at heart Ed was kind and considerate. It was very well done, written and acted.
DeleteThe Helen and Rob storyline only happened because Sean O'Connor was the editor. He had had a success with a storyline very similar on Eastenders for which he was praised, and he repeated it on TA. That was when I stopped avidly listening every night like clockwork and began to catch up on episodes that sounded interesting!
DeleteBTW Totally agree about 'Adam's' voice. Either it is so put on that he is unable to change tone and pitch to register emotions, in case the 'voice' changes or he is a rubbish actor.
My "gut" feeling is that Ed + Emma will get thier new home - be it by fair means or foul and so the story will continue.
ReplyDeleteThis is when they can't keep up with the finances, which happens to so many and is topical.
By that I mean, living beyond their means, esp as Emma (thanks to Natasha) has been buying on a credit card, so monthly payments will have to be made.
Must have missed the episode where Natasha forced Emma into credit card debt... I don't think she really needed any lessons on how to spend money Miriam!
DeleteNatasha certainly didn't force Emma, she just pointed out, how easy it was to obtain things using a credit card...
DeleteI just thought it was relevant. Oh Well 😣
Maybe there was just a wee part of you that wanted to blame Natasha for something? Just a teensy, tiny wee part of you?
DeleteAs per usual, I am probably wrong again, re Emma + credit cards usage. 😭
DeleteI must have not heard correctly, and perhaps just dreamt the chat in the Tea Room.
I remember it too, though didn't think Natasha was forcing anything, just giving Emma the 'benefit' of her experience ! Emma would be an apt learner but I thought she was using real money for her furniture purchases - because Edcwsd bringing home more...
DeleteNatasha definitely suggested buying the things Emma desired on credit cards. Have just listened tonight and am cringing at Emma asking people for money and to lie for them. Jazzer also really has gone too far. Will say no more for the sake of those of you who haven’t listened yet but the plot thickens!
DeleteEverybody's going mad, well some...
ReplyDeleteOh Emma.
ReplyDeleteOh Jazzer.
Why did you feel you had to do what you both did this evening?
One thing is obvious.
The new five week period has started.
We hadn’t heard Neil, Fallon or Harrison for ages before this evening.
If Jim doesn’t want to press charges about Harold then is that the end of it?
Whatever happens,Jim is quite rightly going to be furious with Jazzer
I hope the scriptwriters concentrate on Emma and Ed now .
I am finding that storyline to be quite interesting and wonder if somehow things might work out better for them on the death of Joe who surely must have a bob or two saved.
I can’t think that he will give all his pension to Clarrie.
Surely the police have to know the name of the person Jazzer claims had been abused ? And, yes, he was out of order. If Jim doesn't want to prosecute, end of. It might be different if Jayston was still in a position to abuse.
DeleteAs for Emma, poor woman is panicking. Better if she'd just appealed to Neil.
I'm trying to remember what Neil's salary was when he got the job as manager of the pig unit. Was it something like £50k? If so, he is in a good position to help out Emma.
DeleteWhatever we may think of the storyline, pretty well all of us here are members of the Emerald O'Hanrahan fan club.
Yes, have been wondering whether Joe has a secret stash of cash!
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts as well. I bet Joe has some secret cash hidden away somewhere. After all, did he spend all his pension on the Grange Farm rent and his living expenses?
DeleteI wonder how Gem + Bartleby are doing. 🐎
DeleteJoe gave Ed £1000 which he'd saved up for his funeral, to buy cows.
ReplyDeleteDoes the family get his pension?
What pension would that be ?
DeleteJoe gets a state pension now, well....... we suppose he does.
But I do wonder if he ever paid his stamp, which he would have needed to do as a self employed farm worker surely. I have never known Joe to be in legal employment at any time.
When he dies his pension dies with him.
If Joe has a private pension I will eat my hat.
Oh my word. Both Emma and Jazzer gone too far tonight.
ReplyDeleteIt was bad enough Emma asking for help from Neil , considering they’ve already stumped up some money, but to go and ask Jim!!!! I couldn’t believe it. I was as stunned as he was.
It’s all gonna hit the fan......very soon.
Well I hardly know what to say after tonight’s episode! I was so stunned by Emma asking Jim for a loan of thousands of pounds that I’m afraid I laughed and then felt unkind as she is of course in complete panic mode! The way she almost demanded money from Neil shook me too especially as she doesn’t want Susan to know. Will Neil go ahead and transfer money without her knowledge of it? As for her request to Fallon 😱
ReplyDeleteThen Jazzer oh dear what has he done - and how will the can of worms that he has opened work out🤭
Along with the last 2 episodes another action packed 13 mins and as a result although moved on swiftly seemed longer to me and as a result much enjoyed.
It certainly has us all agog!!😮😮😮
ReplyDeleteEmma's heading for a breakdown methinks. She is losing all perspective and if she carries on being so aggressive & demanding will lose not only her house, but a few good friends along the way.
ReplyDeleteEmma has really gone beyond the pale hasn't she?
ReplyDeleteI was embarrassed to hear her asking for loans and favours as though her problems are far more important than anyone else’s.
And the way she spoke to Fallon was really unforgivable - asking a policeman’s wife to provide false employment documents! - she is becoming unhinged with this desperate desire for a house, and as Gary said she will antagonise all her friends along the way.
As for Jazzer - good heart but fails to engage brain before acting. Whatever will Jim say when Harrison arrives to interview him. He must have worked out who the victim is from
Jazzers ‘evidence’
Some listeners here see Oliver as the saviour of the situation, and he has a track record of helping the Grundies especially Ed,so I wonder why he didn’t occur to Emma as someone who could lend her the cash etc? Perhaps the actor wasn’t available. Speaking of actors, for my money Emerald O’Hanrahan is the best the programme has got at the moment, and the scriptwriters certainly make the most of her.
ReplyDeleteI think Oliver is away on hols but returns this week so maybe a possible outcome....
DeleteAgree Emerald certainly plays the part of Emma superbly - she can irritate me but that just shows how convincingly she portrays her character 🤗
Yes Oliver is the obvious place to go. Apart from helping the Grundies in the past, he introduced Ed to Tim and would have an element of guilt over that. Jim is an unlikely person to save the day as he Is an acquaintance rather than a friend. Agree Emerald has performed Emma ‘s desperation superbly.
ReplyDeleteExactly,Maryellen-first sentence.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts re Oliver.
I am one of the people of whom you speak and still think he will be the one to save Emma and Ed because I think they will get their house.
I also agree-how could one not.?- with what you say about Emerald O’Hanrahan’s acting.
Superb.
But rescuing the house for Emma and the children isn’t the same as rescuing Ed from the clutches of Tim and/or the Law.
DeleteYes, he needs luck on his side ! Deus ex machina. The gang/Tim get caught red-handed; Tim gets rattled & does a bunk, Will & Ed get rid of the chemicals under cover of darkness ( another lie, Bev sleeps over, thinking Will has to be at work trapping the fox....)
Delete.
Out of interest, how would you safely and secretly dispose of dangerous chemicals? You couldn’t just dump them in a disused quarry, hoping not to be seen, and then make an anonymous phone call to the police - or could you?
DeleteCarolyn. IMO. In soapy land angsty plots are suddenly resolved in a contrived manner otherwise the listener/ watcher becomes bored so the S/Ws patronise us by assuming we have a short attention span. Helen’s plot being the exception to the rule.
DeleteRunning two ‘turbo charged’ stories at the same time, especially last nights episode, left me feeling drained and in parts sceptically amused. Would an Emma character really approach another resident for ‘thousands’ of pounds? Certainly desperate bonkers behaviour, but Jim?? Another plot device.
As for Jazzer, well Lanjan you were right.
Yes, it's interesting, Tim and Ed know where the stash is, Will and Adam don't know that it's still on Grundy land but Emma saw Tim looking for hay for a rabbit, but she's too busy with other stuff now.
DeleteWell summed up Stasia, it's becoming farcical which 'soapy stuff' often is.
DeleteEmma explained her approach to Jim by saying how they both worked for the good of others by being on the Parish Council and then offered to resign in case it smacked of nepotism!
👍👍
DeleteI think Tim told Will that the illegal stash is on Grundy land and exactly where during the conversation they had when Tim made out he had lost his way to another farm in order to prove to Will that Ed is still very much involved.
DeleteAm I right?
Yes Lady R. You are correct.
DeleteThat is why Will went and confronted his brother when at work, allowing Adam to enter the story and leading to Eds dismissal.
Yes, you're absolutely right, both of you, about Tim telling Will that the stash was in a Grundy pole barn, that's why he didn't ring the police.
DeleteThere is no reason why Ed shouldn’t get away with it unless the script writers feel that we ,the listeners need to be told that crime doesn’t pay.
ReplyDeleteI actually think that will be the case unless Ed spills the beans to the police and gets away with a suspended sentence.
I think it’s Ed who needs to be told crime doesn’t pay - and gets sentenced!
ReplyDeleteTrue but we know in “real life” sometimes /often crime does pay so why couldn’t that happen in Ambridge ?
DeleteYes I too was utterly shocked at Emma's ' front In asking Jim of all people for a loan.
ReplyDeleteBad enough confronting her father in such a way as she did( but sooooo good to hear Neil again ).
Agree that she has become frantic enough to work herself into a state of panic that could decline into paranoia.
And of course endorse others, Emerald O'Hanrahan is v.v.good.
As for the chemicals, since they are Grundys, I expect the brothers to dump the evidence.
But I hope they don't.
Jazzer ?
Should not have informed Harrison.
Harrison is a dutiful copper and will need to act on the scant information Jazzer has given him.
There will be repercussions. And I feel for Jim.
So Emma is not angry/upset that Ed has committed a crime, not upset that the chemicals are a risk to their family & possibly neighbours too, but she is upset that he has lost his job & risks losing the house. Emma doesn't want anyone to know exactly what Ed has done, but she's happy to ask her employer (??) who is married to a policeman to commit a crime - all to save her precious house!!
ReplyDeleteI was amazed at Emma’s forbearance given the way Ed had behaved towards her and his behaviour in general. She still does not know the ecrim full extent of the stashed chemicals or Tim’s scarcely-veiled threats, because Ed hasn’t come clean with her. I expected more recriminations from her, but just one entirely understandable rant, and then she’s expending her energy on the practicalities of their situation. And while she is desperately trying to find cash and employment for Ed, he is spurning offers of help from Will.
DeleteOf course, we mustn’t forget that Oliver knows nothing about all off this yet.
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't know that his recommendation to Tim has backfired so badly and led Ed to work with a criminal.
If he is to offer help in any way somebody will have to tell him what’s been going on. He’s always treated Ed as something of a protégée and helped him out in many ways. He may think differently about Ed now - or perhaps feel guilty for introducing him to Tim.
But first he would have to be put on the picture - and who is going to do that?
My thoughts exactly.
DeleteOliver can't sort this out, but could help with advice.
Emma’s next plan! Oliver for thousands of pounds. I’m surprised she didn’t think of him first.
DeleteI don't think even Oliver would do that.
DeleteI think he would .
DeleteGood question - it has to be Ed who bumps into Oliver, breaks down and tells all.
ReplyDeleteI still think a "sting" should be set-up for Tim.
DeleteWhat I don't understand is why Tim hasn't collected the pesticides from Ed, which he can sell else-where and make his cash, after recruiting another helper. At the moment, these chemicals represent dead money, as it is obvious that Tim runs this scheme.
ReplyDeleteJust my thoughts 🤣😀🤣
Because he might bump into Will who access to guns. A lot more dangerous than a baseball bat.😊
DeleteNo to any violence with guns. This is Ambridge after all, a supposedly country + quiet village.
DeleteI abhor the violence seen elsewhere, in what is my country where I live.
I do remember Helen stabbed Rob - which was awful and not neccesary.
DeleteBut guns...
I remember that Tom Forrest shot a poacher, many, many years ago.
DeletePlease tell me about Tom Forrest. I don't know him, but I assume he was a game-keeper. This obviously happened before I started listening to TA and I would love to learn about him, and to whom he was married/related to.
DeleteAs per the saying - I am never too old to learn.
Yes, Miriam, he was the estate gamekeeper, long before the days of Will Grundy, when it belonged to the Lawson Hope family, and he was Doris Archer's brother. Known as 'Uncle Tom' to the Archer clan. Doris being Phil's mother and father, and David, Shula, Kenton and Elizabeth's grandmother. I clearly remember him being in court on a murder charge when he shot a poacher accidentally in the dark one night. I'm sure someone will remember the whole thing much better than I can though!
DeleteThank-you. I so appreciate this synopsis as to earlier TA events.
DeleteTo add, I was exactly 1yr old when Grace died.
Can anyone recommend a good Archers Book, which is still available to buy, so I can learn more??
I don't believe the Archer books are available to buy, now, Miriam as most of them have been published by the BBC.
DeleteYou would have to look on eBay or amazon for second hand copies.
They are often on the shelves in charity shops also.
Just to add to Suz's recap. The poacher was Bob Larkin, brother of Clarrie's grandfather Ned Larkin. Tom Forrest was charged with murder because there had been rivalry between the two for the affections of the barmaid at The Bull - Prue (can't remember her maiden name but she did end up marrying Tom.)
DeleteThere was just one gun carried by Bob Larkin and it went off when he was tackled by Tom. When it was discovered that the shooting was accidental the charges against Tom Forrest were dropped.
Incidentally when the charges were dropped the TA production team discovered that in real life the Courts had risen for the Easter (I think) sessions so in TA Tom Forrest had to remain in prison for two or three weeks until he could be 'released.'
That shows just how accurate they used to be unlike the ridiculous s/l we have now about the purchase of the new house!
The way Emma's going she might just as well sit with a begging bowl on The Green, that conversation with Ruth was beyond the pale but she calmed down by the time she got to Helen. Ed can forget about working at Brookfield but Pip gave him good advice, don't sell your tractor, especially not to Josh. Brian told him to look beyond farming, well it's staring them in the face - the chicken factory, Lexi was taken on, there's no sex discrimination?
ReplyDelete' Things get desperate tomorrow,' said the announcer after tonight's episode - come on, it was desperate enough today ! It was painful listening. Very well played indeed, Ed & Emma. One can't but feel very sorry for them. Middling to poor reaction from this, hah, 'close community'. Cleverly done, no one responded unreasonably or in a cruel way exactly, but the feeling that people were so wrapped up in their own world, they couldn't see beyond the words spoken to the fear & need. Brian got closest, but he knows more.
ReplyDeleteAgree with your every word Carolyn. My thoughts too on the announcement.
DeleteReally !
And yes Brian knows more, and, I thought, has sympathy since his downfall was dumped chemicals too. Different situation but close enough to have an understanding.
And also agree with Basia.....the chicken factory calls.
I also felt, despite Emma's cringe worthy begging, that someone needs to think 'crowd funding' ( though have to admit I don't know how it works )
DeleteMrs P, crowdfunding is almost exactly what Emma is doing, only online! That way complete strangers could help pay for her dream house and there may even be monies left over for her to buy overpriced furniture for EVERY room...!
DeleteI have missed TA tonight, but will catch up later on, when snuggled up in bed, with puss-cat curled up beside me.
ReplyDeleteMy comments will have to wait.
It was nice to hear Ruth tonight, never thought I’d ever write that line!!
ReplyDeleteHer response to Emma might just have made Emma realise that she really shouldn’t be asking all and sundry for money. Presumably if their house falls through the whole family will be able to stay at Grange farm. Only time will tell if she realises that there are people worse off than them in regards to being made homeless altogether.
Can’t understand why Ed hasn’t thought about the chicken factory for a job.
Because we are all quicker off the mark than the SWs expect us to be.
DeleteI felt even more uncomfortable with Emma’s begging tonight, especially her telling Ruth she had heard Kenton had repaid the loan and ‘ could she have some of it please’.
ReplyDeleteNot surprised Ruth sent her off with a flea in her ear. What cheek - I thought she was going to ask Ruth if she could do some cleaning at Brookfield again!
This story line has set me off looking at on-line mortgage calculators. A new house like Emma and Ed's would require monthly payments of around £900. If they could increase their deposit by £10,000 by getting money from whomsoever would give it to them, it would reduce their monthly payments by £42. Hardly worth the effort effort. What's much more important is that the building society requires details of income (three years of accounts for someone like Ed who's primarily self-employed), and a legally binding obligation to be truthful.
ReplyDeleteThose figures are very interesting Ex-L. How on earth would E&E afford at least £800 - £900 per month?
ReplyDeleteEven assuming their ´low cost’ home is cheaper than average house prices they will have to manage large repayments and other non-negotiable outgoings such as Council Tax, Electricity etc.
Despite Emma’s fervent (but understandable) wish for her own home, I can’t help thinking it would be better to stay with the rest of the Grundys and have more money to spend on the children and life in general rather than every penny going on basic housing costs
That’s of course, if Oliver would allow the family to remain at Grange Farm.
Of course they'd be in reduced circumstances when living in their 'own home' - owned together with the bank. Many who rent can't possibly replicate what they have when buying, but where's the drama in it. Things may come to a head when Joe dies.
DeleteYes, I guess we were meant to think that Emma would ask Ruth about cleaning only for her to say that there must be some money left over from the loan!
Did anyone notice Pip’s sacrilegious comment about Ruth’s present for Johnny last night?
ReplyDelete“A book? What a boring present!”
How dare she? I love getting books for presents and always have a long list I’m hoping to receive and read. They make great gifts IMO.
I thought it was a really thoughtful idea to give Johnny a book about his beloved Montbéliarde cows, I’m sure he’ll love it. I thought for one dreadful moment Pip was going to say “But Mum, Johnny’s dyslexic”
You have to listen out for little throwaway gems these days, amongst all the doom and gloom of the Grundys
✔ to the books. There is a nice little saying by Cicero " if you have a garden and a library you have everything you need" although I think I would add good health to that.
DeleteCicero didn’t have to worry about where his next meal was coming from, of course.
DeleteMaybe he grew his own veg and fruit and kept chickens in his garden so had something to eat while he read his books!
DeleteFunnily enough it is thought that his family's wealth came from the growing and selling of chickpeas.
DeleteWhen I open my iPad to listen to TA it asks me if there is anything it can help me with and to go ahead it is listening.
ReplyDeleteI shouted in response, ‘can you give Emma Grundy thousands of pounds so that she can move into her sodding little house? Needless to say the response was “ I don’t understand”.
Basia as well as a begging bowl she should sling a cardboard notice around her neck saying ,
Homeless and in need of thousands of pounds.
Will repay with good interest rate. Otherwise I will run around Ambridge like a headless chicken pestering everyone.
MrsP. Your fear for Ed might be well founded. There was a sense of hopelessness in his voice as he hugged Kiera.
I'm feeling very offended.
ReplyDeleteI spent all day in Ambridge yesterday and Emma didn't ask me for a loan.
She even asked the Button girls for goodness sake! Tilly did give her her pocket money out of pity but most of that turned out to be some play coins her toddler cousin had 'paid' her when she was dragooned into playing shop with him.
I came on here to announce I was setting up crowd funding to buy Emma and Ed's new house for them. But I see Mrs P was ahead of me : )
What do we think? I reckon we could do it. Who knows, we could even raise enough to buy another on the estate for Brian and Jennifer. Better still, if they lived next door they could share weedkillers.
😅Thank you for laugh on this miserable , grey morning!
DeleteLoved the bit about sharing weedkillers - very appropriate since my great standby, Glyphosate, is to be banned soon! Get in quick, Brian!
DeleteLovely to hear from you again Old Woman.
DeleteI will pass on your name to Emma and suggest she gives you a call!
Pleased to see that you are still around OWIAS
DeleteIndeed ✔️ 🤗 👏🏻 Come back soon!
DeleteI read something amusing, to me, on the radio 4 'For thought' website today: mortgage comes from the French mort (death) + gage (pledge) - till death do us part!
ReplyDelete🤣o la la !!
DeleteYes Basia, I heard that too whilst ' drifting' in and out of my waking sleep.
DeleteOW in Shoe - how wonderful to know that you are still with us.
Welcome Home..... because you have been AWOL for too long !
I agree that what Emma is doing is cringeworthy and stupid, but she is in extremis, along with Ed who is near the edge too. (Yes, I know it’s his own stupidity)
ReplyDeleteThe idea of crowdfunding (Mrs P) is a relevant thought, but not in a thousand years would the inhabitants of Ambridge think so. They are mostly insular and are only interested in their immediate family and would not consider it their problem. (Yes, I know aren’t we all!) However, I see them as very happy to make use of the lowly Grundys (except Eddie who is a law unto himself and a hopeless role model) to use and drop them when it suits. It’s so interesting how money (or lack of it) brings out the worst in people, begging when needed and taking Umbridge (when what was called for would be a polite refusal and commiseration) when approached. Most of the inhabitants in A have a safe roof over their heads. And those that share do so by choice. For example, Peggy is using her money as a power/control thing. (She'd be good to cadge from!!!)……….It seems to me that If anything can be gleaned from this particular story line (to encourage) young listeners, is that braking the law is not always the best policy (no question) but more relevant, that you can work your b**** of and still end up at the bottom of the pile……I know many will totally disagree and say their lives have been difficult and troubled. Haven’t we all had something. But for me it just seems so lazy of the sw’s to keep pulling out the Grundys as a target when they want to show the plight of impoverishment . (No need to mention Jennifer…..I get it!!).........Here endeth this mornings sanctimonious sermon!! 😌............I can see from other comments that I am taking this far too seriously 🤔. Still there are parallels in that other world we call 'real'! 😏
Not just Ed's stupidity. He wouldn't be in this mess if Emma hadn't pushed him to keep working for Tim.
DeleteEd wanted to pull out at the first hint of anything dodgy. Parish Councillor Grundy said something along the lines of it being perfectly acceptable to bend the law if it gave a breaks to the hardworking underdogs (ie: her and Ed).
I had high hopes at the beginning that Tim was going to be good news for Ed. Alarms bells started ringing at the time he provided the van for Eddie. (Is there still a plot-line brewing in that?) I still reckon he's the descendent of the original Home Farmgate dumpers.
Poor Oliver is going to be mortified when he realises he's introduced his protege to a black marketeer.
I think Emma’s actual words to Ed were ‘everyone does it’ which implies that she thinks it is OK to fiddle taxes and suchlike. The black economy; paying the builder in cash to avoid his VAT, not declaring every penny you make on your tax return, making up expenses, nicking a few biros from work. They are all things ‘everyone does’......apart from the majority of us who are law abiding citizens with a conscience and who want to sleep well at night.
DeleteIt occurred to me that Harrison Burns may think Jazzer himself was the victim of the historical abuse he is alleging - because “my friend” or someone I know” is quite often used by people who don’t want to name themselves as the person involved.
ReplyDeleteYou may be right Maryellen, except that Jazzer also said ' about seventy years ago' which appeared to me to be an almost direct reference to Jim.
DeleteListen again and you will hear Harrison ask if this abuse was recent. ( I think)
Oh yes - good thinking, Mrs P! Is Jim Lloyd the only man in that age bracket that Jazzer knows?
DeleteAlthough others think that Harrison is not the brightest button in the box, I think he will work it out pretty easily.
DeleteYes the party debacle - even Harrison has to pick up on that and the fact that there was a man in a wheelchair there...
DeleteGood to hear from you, BB, after a longish gap, methinks !uncomfortable truths from you, as well, the insularity of Ambridge, mirroring most communities, especially around money (parting with it, keeping it, needing it, inheritance & so on) I thought Jim dealt with Emma firmly, but left her some dignity, but Ruth's reaction was unnecessarily harsh. Emma's cleaned for her, Ed's worked for them, they know the family all too well. Compassion would have been more appropriate than sharp retorts.
ReplyDeleteCrowd funding? Well, Susan galvanised people into helping Will with the school run, maybe she could start something, except she's a snob, & wouldn't want to advertise her own daughter's dire need.
✓✓✓ to what you said about Peggy !
I think Ruth was astonished given the tactless manner in which Emma demanded she hand over money that had been repaid from Kenton. I thought Ruth’s response was partly related to Emma knowning about the loan and hence her and David’s financial situation.
DeleteEveryone in Ambridge knew about the loan because David spent a lot of time in the pub shouting at Kenton making promises he didn’t keep. Of course that doesn’t make Emma’s
Begging for the thousands be handed over to her an appropriate behaviour in referring to the repayment as a windfall.
Emma’s desperate behaviour leads me to think she is in an emotionally vulnerable position and may do something drastic to alleviate her inability to control her circumstances;ces.
Ed’s passivity isn’t helpful and that may be as a result of Emma having to all the thinking in their relationship. How Emma can’t think straight.
Yes, a lot of people falling apart in Ambridge ! Who's next ?
DeleteMy thoughts are probably very different to others.
ReplyDeleteEd + Emma have their deposit for their new home, the mortgage has been agreed, so why not exchange, complete and just move in.
Do they need to reveal about Ed losing his employment at Home Farm at the moment?
There could well be a good resolution to this.
....not too far away. This could be to do with Tim, Adam rethinking, Ed finding new employment, and many other possible variables.
DeleteI just think that Ed + Emma should buy + move into the Beechwood Home.
I still go along with my original idea and thoughts.
Ed + Emma do take up residence in their Beechwood property, but Kirsty + Philip don't.
It's my idea of a TA "Twist in the Tail" S/L .
Yes, on the face of it they could go ahead as long as they can meet the repayments but suddenly they're worried about the small print which didn't bother them before, it wouldn't be good drama though.
DeleteNo job no repayments though, and re possession next stop. Emma could cover bills maybe but mortgage too - no way!
DeletePeggy could at least have offered some comfort to Emma. Whatever else Ed and Emma are hard workers and sincere and would pay the money back. Also Emma has worked hard for Peggy for a long time. Even if Peggy refuses to lend she could have been more sympathetic. Kate was awful as usual and Emma was humiliated. I can see now her desperation as she said she had not been sleeping and sleep deprivation can result in poor judgement. It looks as if Oliver is the last chance saloon.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all Ed said he couldn't lie to Oliver, well he'll have to come clean with him, especially that it was he who introduced him to Tim. Yes, I was disappointed in Peggy, notice Emma reverted to calling her Mrs Woolley, though trying to borrow to buy outright was over the top. Yes Kate, Emma was begging but at least she was honest, I wonder who's going to pay the vet's bill.
ReplyDeleteI think Peggy could have been more sympathetic too,Ev..
ReplyDeletePoor Emma is desperate and has been humiliated by virtually everyone she has approached.
She deserves a lot of luck .
Oliver as I have said on several occasions is the one who will be the Knight in shining armour.
She will get her house,you’ll see.
I have now just missed a 2nd TA broadcast, which is not me normally (many things going on in family, so I am busy chatting on Wattsapp)
ReplyDeleteI think I will now wait + catch-up with the Sunday Omnibus, to hear the continuity, which often makes more sense.
I think Emma should go for the Receptionist’s job at Grey Gables, and so get a permanent job with a contract to satisfy the mortgage company. I guess Oliver could help with that as well as (possibly) lending Ed cash.
ReplyDelete,
What a good idea ! Beats the chicken factory, & cleaning up after a smug old lady & the sloppy sponger who lives with her.
DeleteLovely idea. I think Emma would do a good job and probably there would be training and promotion prospects at Grey Gables.
DeleteCarolyn✔️✔️✔️👏 I used to like Peggy but have really gone off her! It started when she was so mean to old Tony!
DeleteYes ! Did she always treat him as a loser, the one offspring who's led a blameless life & always worked hard, had ideals ? ( Though mustn't forget Jennifer's Ideal kitchen...)
DeleteWhat a very good idea Maryellen.
DeleteSusan would be pleased.
Agree ✔️
DeleteOur hearts go out to Emma, whatever wild & desperate pleas she's making. I winced at Peggy's sanctimonious ' Neither a borrower nor a lender be', doing her matriarchal number, so well cushioned by her wealth, & full of self importance. Not saying she should have lent her money, but she could have been more understanding. Still, her despicable granddaughter, simpering around the Mills & Boon romantic figure of the strong & silent vet, really was unbelievable. Spoilt, useless, narcissistic, she had the nerve to treat Emma like the dirt beneath her feet. Grrr...
ReplyDeleteThe English class system writ large.
DeletePeggy reminded me very much of her own mother, Mrs Perkins, tonight. That sanctimonious attitude and quoting that old saying. Considering how well she knows Emma and her circumstances she could have shown a little more understanding rather than the shock horror of being asked for a loan. Just like Mrs P’s indignant, self righteous attitude to anyone who didn’t come up to her high standards.
DeleteArcherphile -✔️✔️✔️
DeleteExcellent idea Maryellen.
ReplyDeleteOliver sorts out the little money problem,Ed passes the Application form to Emma .
Emma charms visitors to GG with her quaint Ambridge accent.
Peggy not only behaved unkindly but also stupidly.
Why on earth when she knew that there was nothing wrong with Hilda did she allow Kate to take her to the vet especially as she knew the real reason for the visit?
Maybe now would be the perfect time for Emma & Ed to think about moving elsewhere in the country. Somewhere with better job prospects & more affordable housing perhaps. I still don't really understand why so many people in Ambridge continue to (unhappily) live there, given that they constantly moan about the quality & lack of work, nevermind some of the frankly bizarre living arrangements*...
ReplyDelete*Toby & Rex & Bert? Really? STILL?
Poor old Bert swapping his Freda for Toby and Rex! Bet they can’t cook as well as she did!
DeleteYes Gary, Toby must still be paying rent to Bert while spending most of his time at Rickyard. I presume he doesn't pay anything to Pip for the facilities he uses there.
DeleteI’m left more stunned every episode! When was Chris asked for money? and to ask Peggy for the total house price - I thought (like Jim ) Peggy handled the situation as sensitively as she could.
ReplyDeleteKate it takes one to know one and Peggy let you know that’s what she was thinking!
Emma you would still have to run the house plus repay a loan. As the family are due to leave GF is the SL to be Ed, Emma & family living in a B & B somewhere to highlight another social issue of today 🤔 one minute about to buy
own home next minute gone!
There is also Kirsty's vacated job as chief towel folder to be filled - Emma could do that between stints on reception. Lovely Ed could train as a fitness instructor, I'm certain he could attract new clientele.
ReplyDeleteI thought Keira sounded just as irritating as Henry. Are child actors always so whiney?
Guns in Ambridge.
ReplyDeleteI remember when ? Clive Horrobin ? held-up the Post Office/shop with a shotgun, Debbie Aldridge and lovely Jack Woolley were hiding in the store-room. I think it made Jack ill. Or it might have been delightful Col. Danby. A nice old chap anyway.
Yes it was Jack when he owned it. I think he was the sub-postmaster originally? I'm sure he had a heart attack during the raid.
DeleteI can understand the historic sex abuse story line as it’s very topical at the moment. But Emma’s housing problem is ridiculous. Forty two houses are being built not far from where I live, and a three bedroom house 🏠 would cost £299,000. With a deposit of £29995 the repayments would be (at 3.90% interest rate) £1,411.
ReplyDeleteAbsurd for Emma to be asking Peggy for such a large sum of money even if has known her all her life.
OWiaS. Expect a knock on your later on. I do hope you have the readies available,I because Emma is about to crack up completely.
Lanjan can you teach the S/Ws some simple arithmetic. They obviously can’t add 2and 2 when it comes to mortgages.
All they need to do is go on line and search for ‘Houses for sale in Ambridge’.
There's an item called House Prices on radio 4 today: Cumbria - lowest house prices combined with highest average wages, sorted.
DeleteHow about Ed for new junior receptionist at Grey Gables? Mind you, he’d have to buy a suit.
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