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Am I the first ?
ReplyDeleteGary..... deer and huntsmen ?
Why ?
It’s The Archers, Mrs P!!
DeleteOh so it is Gary 🤣
DeleteGary...is it cos they are “archers” with no ideas!! Get it. No eye deers! 😆
ReplyDeleteGroan!
DeleteWhat do you call a deer with no eyes and no legs?
A poor deer ?
DeleteDee-eyed ?
DeleteYou're a sharp one, PtbY - so smartly figured out 😉😁
ReplyDeleteI saw it was cave art, but from where - France, Spain or....? Then thought the figures were a tad too detailed & sophisticated for the real thing ( which I haven't seen in situ, but would love to ) so a skilful situation.
Anyway, at both levels, clever copy & TA referenced, I reckon it's your best heading ever, amongst so many super ones, Gary !
Delete'Skilful imitation' of course ( not situation....grrrr....)
Cheers Carolyn! 😉
DeleteMake the most of this morning’s Omnibus, if you can. The last ‘proper’ episodes until who knows when.
ReplyDeleteThere's a list of 30 archive episodes on the BBC Archers website...starting with Ed and Emma's wedding.
ReplyDeleteOLD ARCHERS!!
ReplyDelete😂😂😂thought that would make your day, Gary. Your favourite couple.
DeleteGoodness me !
ReplyDeleteHow thick was I ?
Particularly so since my name is within the illustration.
I simply did not see the connection.
Very good GG.
Is it Diana Mrs P. Goddess of hunting?
DeleteGary’s painting is called Archers and is by. Woman called Inna Granat.
ReplyDeleteI like some of her still lives. I gather it may relate to Algerian wall art.
Interesting, Stasia. Thought it might be a kind of homage to ancient wall/cave art. I'll Google her !
DeleteNo Archerphile it's my married surname.
ReplyDeleteDeriving from the French for arrow I think.
Will check that.
Hurrah, I’m back to normal. Don’t ask how, haven’t a clue. We’re my fingertips the cure?
ReplyDeleteMy advice. Don’t ever fiddle or doddle about with things that have a mind of their own.
I am trying not to be negative about the citizens of Ambridge but will the virus be an opportunity for some to say goodbye. I would have suggested Joe fortunately he went to Grundy heaven some time ago when life was ‘normal’.
I suppose the obvious candidates would be Peggy, Christine and /or Jill.
DeleteBut the actresses may have very different ideas!
Arrow maker
ReplyDeleteFletcher
DeleteAnother great image GG.
ReplyDeleteIt reminds me of wonderful cave paintings I saw in Spain, where were illuminated by just oil lanterns, carried by some and no safety features - but that would have spoilt the experience. The farmer who owned the land with these caves, was a character + so proud of his find. I had no idea what he was talking about, but I loved the very spooky, experience.
This should have been on the other site, but then it would not have fitted the image.
Back to TA + Ambridge.
On listening to the Omnibus this morning, my one and only comment has to be:-
Em with "Little Grange" and how it was sorted so quickly + easily and does Oliver approve, as after all, it is his property.
Still, it all ended up "Happily Ever After", and was a good way to end, until after the Lockdown.
Just forced myself to listen to the Ed & Emma nuptials, think I mght have missed them in 2015.
ReplyDeleteThe making up between Will & Ed soon degenerated, didn't it ? Only to be mended a little after Nic's death, & then more decisively after Will's breakdown.
Will sounded less neanderthal, was it a different actor ? Or the character making a big effort to rise to the occasion for everyone's sake ? Perhaps it was down to his relationship with Nic going so well at that point.
Same actor Carolyn - Philip Molloy (son of Terry Malloy who played Mike Tucker)
DeleteStasia (3.29 pm today), googled Inna Granat - she's done a number of cave style works, all with that vivid immediacy & impression of movement, an ongoing story. Saw some still lifes too, but not so keen on the flower close ups - should look again !
ReplyDelete(Ok, nothing to do with TA, but, hey, it all comes from the new new blog pic....)
St. Stephens along with a wonderful peal of church bells; for Ed + Emma...
ReplyDeleteIt was
It was a good episode to listen to again.
DeleteI certainly didn't listen again to William being coerced into the "best man" role.
ReplyDeleteI've just opened an email from a friend offering to send me the gun after his partner has used it due to not having any ARCHERS for the next month, only repeats.
ReplyDeleteI told him I didn't need it because I had the blog and that we didn't actually need TA to be broadcast to endlessly talk about it !
Said she should join us.
If the caravan's on a slope they could name it Grange Hill (or Grange 'ill).
ReplyDeleteWell I throughly enjoyed tonight’s episode! Lovely to hear Will & Ed chatting and both wanting to re start their brother relationship with Will declaring he wished Ed to be as happy as he and Nic, followed by toasting his brother at the reception. Good to hear Joe again too all in all a no stress episode (other than a brief mention of Rob before “it” all started of course). Also the church bells left me feeling uplifted 😇 🤗
ReplyDelete“Happy Days” quite a novelty!
I really enjoyed it too Lady R and the thing that struck me quite forcibly was the amount of birdsong that could be heard in the outdoor scenes.
ReplyDeleteIt reminded me of how many animal and outdoor sounds there used to be on TA. These days the most often heard sound is music playing In the cafe, or elsewhere, which the Editor seems to delight in making pertinent to the scene.
Very clever, I’m sure, but I like to hear more natural countryside sounds as we used to hear.
Yes you are quite right there was lovely birdsong AP rather like now when many people are enjoying it properly for the first time in a long long while.
DeleteI also agree with your tearoom music comment it always reflects the topic under discussion 😌
2.35
ReplyDeleteStill no idea : )
I was just laid in bed when the answer came to me. But you’ve beaten me to it. ☹️
Deletesorry, PtbY.
DeleteWhat do you call a fish with no eyes?
fsh?
DeleteFull marks to Gary
DeleteI enjoyed the episode too. So good to hear a happy one.
ReplyDeleteIn line with the current theme.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the proper way to greet an Archer Fan?
With respect!
DeletePut it under a cold shower, to be shocked back into reality....
DeleteYo..man.
DeleteWake up folks.
Respect.
I am quite happy to hear repeated episodes, so I can still have a TA nightly fix.
ReplyDeleteSome might moan + groan, but what would - or could, replace it at 7.00pm. to give similar thoughts + discussions, in the same way, as now??
Stasia.
ReplyDeleteMy very simple idea about, meeting an Archers Fan, is to greet that person, with a Big Hug 🤗
How I long to hug someone again, as the last time was March 14th, at a family meal to celebrate, a youngsters 6th birthday.
Miriam, I’m sending you a virtual 🤗 hug.
DeleteThank-you. 🤗
DeleteI haven't seen a fsmily member "face-to-face" since then 😣
Life goes on, and I can still enjoy TA , be it listening again to a "repeat"... which I am sure I will enjoy (or not) again.
I had forgotten, that was when Kenton proposed to Kathy.
ReplyDeleteThis was, what 14 yrs ago - how their relationship changed, and in such a sad way.
That was fun! I missed it the first time as in Dec 2006 I was in Italy without any digital device.
ReplyDelete10 characters, some gone, some no longer heard. Kenton and Kathy didn't marry though, did they?
I have no idea - but I am sure some-one will know, and so enlighten us.
DeleteMy thought, is they didn't marry.
No, they didn't marry.
ReplyDeleteI think the wedding was planned but then they sat down together and talked, ( I remember that bit ) and decided that living together was enough for both of them, and they didn't want, or need, a ceremony.
I can't now remember how they finished the relationship though.
Nor do I, but Kenton started looking after Jolene when Sid died and as Kathy said later she ended up marrying her men, that's in Ambridge fashion though.
DeleteYAY!
ReplyDeleteKATHY - SID - DEBBIE what joy we are going to experience over the next few weeks having the chance to hear the now “silent” of Ambridge once again 🎉
Jolene stole Sid from Kathy and after he died did it again with Kenton. Kathy had taught Sid’s daughter. That’s how I remember it anyway!
ReplyDeleteGoodness, it took me a minute or two to identify Sid, and he had such a recognisable voice. But it was his homophobic attitude that gave the game away!
ReplyDeleteNever did like the sainted Kathy much, such a dreary voice, and there it was again tonight.
But I must say Adam sounded much nicer back then and not nearly so bored as he does these days ......but then he had just got married!
Goodness Ev I'd forgotten all that. Jolene sounds like a 'temptress'! Used to like Sid but he didn't sound so nice in this episode. Kate's voice sounded different to my ears. Has it always been played by the same actress?
ReplyDeleteAgree with you Archerphile about Adam, his voice seemed much lighter.
ReplyDeleteA nice memory of how Brian was converted by the example of Ian's father.
I was never very keen on the character of Kathy, but tonight I heard a rather different voice to that Kathy that I remembered.
It was a shock to hear Sid, but a pleasant one, although I agree that he was often unpleasant in his bigoted views, and tonight we were reminded of how bigoted he could be.
Thank you Ev. I remember it myself now.
Kate was played by Kellie Bright until a few years ago when Kellie went to Eastenders. Perdita Avery plays her now. Both very good IMO.
ReplyDeleteI was always fond of Adam and Ian and very much liked Adam’s voice. I think their characters used to be more well rounded than of late. Mind you I have sympathy with Adam, trying to work with Brian. I really enjoy listening to Brian’s character but he would drive me to distraction if I had to live or work with him.
Come to think of it I miss Brian’s witty one liners, we haven’t had many of those recently.
As for Jolene, she used to be portrayed as a sexy barmaid/landlady, something that’s been dropped in our more enlightened times. Eddie had a thing about her at one time when they were both singers. I don’t remember it exactly but I know it was referred to from time to time.
DeleteIt was Sid's attitude combined with Glen's arrival that clinched it for Brian, we just knew that after the lengthy directions he'd jump into the car and the two fathers would show up together, however predictable, I liked the way it was played out.
ReplyDeleteArcherphile 10.20pm
ReplyDeleteJust a little correction, Ian and Adam had a Civil Partnership in 2006.
Same sex marriage wasn’t legalised until 2014 and I think they got married sometime, later under more fraught circumstances. Didn’t Charlie? try to tempt Adam to run away with him to Scotland where Justin banished him to manage a farm.
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DeleteSorry Stasia, you are quite right. And they even said ‘Civil Partnership’ in the episode so I have no excuse for getting it wrong!
DeleteIt was Rob who put the "fraught" into the marriage. Helen told him about seeing Adam and Charlie kissing on NYE and Jennifer in a drunken state disclosed Adam's affair with Pawel. Rob made a snide remark to Ian about theirs being an open relationship, Ian replied that he knew about Pawel but Rob told him about Charlie and later Ian blamed Helen for not telling him. Ian even asked Adam if he really wanted to get married without mentioning his concerns. Later Ian considered going back to Belfast but love won, Adam was banished to a separate bedroom for a time. His concession was to agree 'trying for a baby'.
ReplyDeleteGosh, things were really complicated back then weren’t they!
DeleteI always rather liked Charlie and was very sorry when Justin packed him off to Perth(?).
I always hoped he would return one day.
Whew- well done Basia 👏🏻
DeleteMastermind specialist subject TA here you come.....
Thank you, it's a part of our collective memory bank.
DeleteGosh, don't need to listen to last night's TA - feel as if I've got the gist from all the comments here !
ReplyDeleteI see Coronation Street is doing a coerced control story - the article I read about it didn’t mention The Archers had already bin there, seen it and dun it!
ReplyDeleteI wasn’t listening when Sid was around. He sounds like a thoroughly nasty individual.
ReplyDeleteI think we need to remember that civil partnership was a new and unknown thing at the time. Sid does sound nasty but on the whole he wasn’t but just a man of the time. I’m glad there is more enlightenment now. It always seemed to me to be grossly unfair that a gay couple could be together for years and when one died the one left had no rights at all. Civil partnership at least ended this inequality.
DeleteI with so much with Maryellen (1.49pm).
ReplyDeleteI am a massive "Corrie" fan The coercive control story line, which is so prominent at the moment, is very reminiscent to the Helen/Rob one, in TA.
I hope it gets the same outcome.
There is a big "BUT" - and that is down to the filming schedules, before "lockdown".
Like the Philip/Gavin/Blake situation in TA - will us, the listeners and viewers - know what actually happens next.
I will have to accept whatever happens next, and when, even if it is a synopsis.
Perhaps there will be flashbacks to fill us in on what has been happening in Ambridge while we were all locked away.
DeleteBrilliant idea...
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I had no need to listen to THAT again...
ReplyDeleteSorry Stasia but I can't let the comment on Sid be unchallenged except by Ev.
ReplyDeleteDid was from a lowly background in Brum and came to Ambridge through Jack Woolly somehow, though I can't remember exactly how. He was the publican forever and was a cynical character and often suspicious of anything new.
But he was also a very rounded character, much loved by Archers fans, and very much a fulcrum of Ambridge life at The Bull.
As Ev said he was a man of his time and I would add, of his background and his profession. He also lost his lovely wife Polly when they were quite young, which added to his cynicism I think.
Before Betty Tucker, Polly Perks was my favourite character.
Then of course, there was MrsP.
I spent the whole of tonight's episode waiting for 'that' scream !
ReplyDeleteMe too ! Decided to listen tonight, & how well done it was. I'd completely forgotten the agonizing conversation Tom & Kirsty had in the vestry before the memorable wail. She even apologized for making a fuss about the dress & all the wedding palava. How could he stammer out that he couldn't go through with it at the last possible moment ? Appalling.
DeleteAll the more poignant when we now know she is going to suffer another horrible let down.
Step in, Roy ! Save the damsel in distress !
Wasn’t that Real Tom rather than the actor who replaced him?
ReplyDeleteDo you know, I was wondering that too. It didn’t quite sound like the real Tom to me.
DeleteBut then I remembered that the new Tom, engaged by SO’C, only started after the character returned from Canada, where he had fled after the Wedding fiasco - and he returned with a completely different voice!
Although the original Tom’s actor was keen to take up the role again Mr O’Connor decided he only wanted to employ ‘properly trained actors’, hence the engagement of young Mr Troughton, who just happened to be the real life son of ‘Tony Archer’!
THE OLD TOM 🤗
ReplyDeleteAlthough by then Tony was played by David Troughton due to Colin Skipp having left for health reasons. Then “old” Tom (Tom Graham) was asked to leave and hey - ho he was replaced by Patrick’s son Will!
Kirsty’s voice sounded a little less gravely to me, younger of course, and Alan the vicar. These episodes really are a trip down memory lane.
Also really nice to hear the continuity announcer again 🎤
ReplyDeleteOh my goodness, I found that quite painful to listen to. Poor Kirsty. I don't blame her for letting out that scream.
ReplyDeleteThe Troughtons are not the only example of a TA relationship reflecting real life. Sid Perks’ daughter Lucy was played by the actor’s daughter. It shouldn’t matter..
ReplyDeleteNot if it is a new and necessary re cast ie actor moving on or has died and it has been decided the character is to remain but to just sack an actor after 17 yrs 😡
DeleteNot at all ,Maryellen if the person playing the part wanted to leave the programme but in the case of Tom Graham he didn’t and he was in my opinion a much better actor than the person who replaced him.
ReplyDeleteHe was certainly spot on last night - his desperate state, utterly unable to explain himself, matched with Kirsty's fearful anxiety & pain. He didn't have those irritating vocal tics which Mar the current Tom's performance.
DeleteYes, I agree wholeheartedly. Tom Graham may or may not have been a ‘properly trained actor’ but he had played the part for years and created the character we all knew and were comfortable with. I felt his acting seemed far more natural, believable and easy to listen to than that of his replacement.
DeleteI never could understand the real reason for his dismissal but I think he was a great loss to the programme.
Sorry, LanJan, but an actor doesn’t have ‘rights’ over a character they are employed to play, and imo the replacement actor is better than the original one, though both were/are pretty average. There are more reasons than job performance for sacking an employee, and I have always felt there was more to this than met the eye. From the public fuss the replaced actor made, I suspect he was a pain in the proverbial around the studio. We will probably never know if Iam right or wrong about this, if the latter I apologise,
DeleteI enjoyed listening to that episode again - I've never forgotten that scream! I mimed it as husband walked in the kitchen, he looked at me like I'd lost the plot.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed the interlude banter between Eddy and old Joe.
ReplyDeleteKirsty certainly has a wail to be proud of, and the acting was convincing.
Old Tom, New Tom. One with a squeaky voice and the other with ticky voice.
Neither impress me.
MrsP.
ReplyDeleteI decided to listen to some p of A&I’s civil partnership so that I could learn something about Sid Perks.
He is indeed an unpleasant ignorant man.
The red line on catch-up is very helpful.
In a way, I think it was good that they reprised that episode last night.
ReplyDeleteIt helped remind me of exactly how much trauma Kirsty had suffered in the past at the hands of a fiancé ...... and how devstating a repeat will be for her.
Another father and son are Mike and William.
ReplyDeletePeggy told Tom in no uncertain terms that if he has doubts he should tell Kirsty but it wasn't done for drama's sake. Kirsty later blamed Helen for not letting her know that he expressed some of those doubts to her.
I am really enjoying listening, to these episodes again, some I remember far better, than others.
ReplyDeleteIt is a lovely interlude, at this time and helps keep me happy and calm.
I wonder when TA returns, how it will be done?
This got me thinking, which is quite dangerous, as you all know.
The farms will be fine. Also the likes of Tom + Natasha, will be able to leave their flat, as they are food producers.
Grey Gables - now this is different. What will happen to Roy, Tracy, Oliver etc.
Oliver, will he stay there or relocate to Grange Farm?
Roy, has to be home with Pheoebe, surely.
The Village Shop. Many of the volunteers will not be able to work - Jim, Gill for example.
So enter Tracy to help her sister Susan to run it.
Jim, will not be able to go out, but Jazzer + Alistair will, as both looking after live-stock.
However:-
there are some residents, who will find it different, namely:-
Carole T in Glebe Cottage
Bert in The Bungalow
Peggy + Kate in The Lodge (with Hilda)
Joy, with her cat, in Beechwood.
Philip, Kirsty + Gavin, "ditto" (and how will they feed their gang-force?)
Lilian + Justin in The Dower House (but they have space)
Robert + Linda in Ambridge Hall.
As I have said, I have been thinking, probably too hard.
Sorry...😁
At least, I am sure, that there will be many home deliveries available to these, keeping social distancing. These include,
DeleteHome Farm with its produce, along with Bridge Farm with veg.boxes etc.
Perhaps Fallon + Emma, can do a "take-away" service, from the Tea Room?
There is one thing, that I am convinced will happen, and that is Kirsty + Philip, will get married.
ReplyDeleteWill things then fall apart, or not.
I expect Gavin be will be the one, who takes the consequences, in the short term.
Philip has an answer for everything, at the moment.
He has to be found out eventually, but when + how?
More lockdown thoughts.
DeleteI have obviously have too much time, to do this.
Oops...😣
Chris + Alice tonight.
ReplyDeleteI am looking forward to hearing how "Jennifer Dahling" reacted, which escapes me.
All will become known again in a short while.
That was fun all over again!
ReplyDeleteI wonder who left flowers for Emma?
Oh, Josh was infatuated with her once.
Tonight's episode: the English class system is the very DNA of Ambridge; loved Brian; what journey has Chris's accent been on?
ReplyDeleteDifferent actor back then. Could argue that his accent is less like the rest of the family than the current one.
DeleteHad to laugh at Jennifer tonight - appalling snobbery. She and Brian are very funny together. I miss them.
For me the best line EVER on TA
ReplyDeleteI've just realised Brian, I've become related to a Horrabin
I loved it at the time and loved it tonight.
Oh, a delightful episode, well worth hearing again. The contrast between the two sets of parents - what a hoot ! Bride & groom evidently oblivious, just as well....
ReplyDeleteAn entertaining episode, one of my favourites.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed yesterday’s too, I’d forgotten about Roy’s faux-pas with the tractor.
Yes, one of my favourites too. That final line of Jennifers was priceless.
ReplyDeleteInteresting to hear that Alice was just as Sloan-y back then as she is today. It is just Chris -tee-fer whose voice has changed, several times!
Agree it was a fun episode. Jennifer dahling is such a snob.
ReplyDeleteWatch out folks, “my misdemeanour books filling up fast”.
ReplyDeleteWell I enjoyed that and didn’t move the red button once.
Low life contrasted with the ‘petite bourgeoisie’ attitude of a once lowly born.
Ruairi sound like the typical surly 😠 Ambridge child.
When he very first appeared as an infant he has a strong Irish accent. That seems to have totally disappeared as he has grown up and been send to Public School. What a shame.
DeleteI am really enjoying these episodes again.
ReplyDeleteIt is not the main item, but the little things, along with many other details, which were going on, at the same time.
Not forgetting, many comments.
I loved that Roy, got things wrong for Tom. That had certainly, slipped my mind.
It is a good parallel with Kirsty + Philip, but at least, this time, it was not his fault.
Has any-one seen, the note, Annabele Dowler, wrote to her children, whilst she has been recording TA in lockdown?
ReplyDeleteAt least, it is known, TA is continuing in some form. 😀
Yes, I saw that, telling her children to be quiet and not enter the room because Mummy was recording the Archers! Lovely.
DeleteThat is what happens with accents Archerphile 12,21pm- well it did with mine.
ReplyDeleteAccording to my mother ,before we went to live in Lancashire I spoke “nicely”
I then developed the !Lancashire accent I have today although I still say grarse instead of grass and Barth instead of bath.
Apparently the cut off is about the age of 13 years of age.
My younger grandson was only 11 years of age when he moved to Canada and he has a pronounced Canadian accent.
His elder brother still has a touch of Lancastrian accent although it is obvious that there is a bit of Canadian there as well.
I may have told this story before . A Pakistani gentleman once told me that when his parents came over to visited the family in Manchester and asked the two children how they travelled to school they did not understand the reply which was
“On’t buz “ .
I love accents.
ReplyDeleteSo do I Lanjan. It makes life more interesting. My dad and his friends spoke a Cornish dialect that visitors coming here could not understand, but sadly it has become very diluted nowadays.
DeleteI wonder why, since the episodes we are hearing are repeats ,,we can’t have an episode on a Friday..
ReplyDeleteThat’s a very good point Lanjan! Deserves a letter to the management I think!
DeleteRe accents - my two half French grandsons are completely bilingual. They speak French with what is known as a southern French accent rather than the posher Paris accent because they were brought up in Toulouse.
ReplyDeleteBut when they speak English, it is with a perfect RP accent. In fact their accent is far better than my English grandchildren whose accents are not perfect RP. They are not actually estuary like so many youngsters these days (thank goodness) but definitely slightly ‘Hampshire’
My Black Country grandad used to beam when we visited and would say “ ‘ow bin ya” or how are you! Once we arrived and he was excited because he had made a “sate”. It was a rough hewn garden seat and he insisted I sat on it. I didn’t like to tell him it had splintered my bare leg!! The accent was lovely but has become diluted nowadays. What with that and the other half of my family being Glaswegian, I was bilingual!😊
ReplyDeleteBit like my mum,Ev who was born in Glasgow but then moved between Wolverhampton,Glasgow and Buxton to live with her father’s sisters after her own mother died when she was only 6years old.
ReplyDeleteShe said that she could never understand why ,when she lived with the Glasgow aunt, her cousins who were of similar age to her were allowed to go out to play when she had to do housework.
I can’t understand that either.
Oh, Lanjan, that’s really sad. Bad enough that she had lost her mother but then to be treated like that. Unforgivable. She must have been very confused being moved around like that too.
ReplyDeleteWhat a nasty aunt, using a motherless little girl as a skivvy.
ReplyDeleteI hope the Buxton & Wolverhampton aunties were more nurturing.
Not really TA based, but.. My grandpa had a wonderful N Lincs accent, arrived one Sunday afternoon to be greeted by 'bah, tha sat doon theer lak a dollop o' s.. t'...
ReplyDeletePriceless :-)
DeleteI wonder if anyone (Archerphile Mrs? anyone?) can help out. On a different forum I made mention of Hollowtree Farm which used to be Allards Farm but had been bought by Brookfield Farm at one point and where Phil, Jill and the three eldest children lived until they moved into Brookfield. Hollowtree farmhouse was then sold to Nelson Gabriel who turned it into four flats. That is all confirmed in Joanna Toye's 'Ambridge Encyclopedia'.
ReplyDeleteI seem to remember that when Nelson died his daughter Rosemary inherited the farmhouse but didn't want it so re-sold it to Brookfield. More recently David within the past three years)was up at Hollowtree with either Pip, Toby or Rex and he mentioned the farmhouse and how he hadn't done anything about it and it was now empty and near derelict.
I am sure that I heard that.
Anyway I had made the comment and got a sarcastic 'reply' from someone who is regarded as the fount of all Archer knowledge, who said that the farmhouse did not belong to Brookfield so there was no need for David to feel guilty.
Can anyone else remember the history of Hollowtree please and the more recent history of the farmhouse and the farm building which I know are leased out the the Fairbrethren?
My memory, aided by some quick research in various Archers books, agrees that Hollowtree (formerly Allards Farm was bought by Phil in 1962 and renamed by Jill when they moved in. It is where they bought up the family until they inherited and moved into Brookfield.
DeleteHollowtree FARMHOUSE was bought by Nelson Gabriel in the 1970s and converted into flats, but the farm (and, presumably farm buildings) were bought back by Phil to accommodate his herd of pigs.
Rex and Toby subsequently rented 5 acres and SOME BUILDINGS for their enterprise. Perhaps it was the Farm Buildings that David had ‘let go’ and needed work to repair?
As for Nelson, he lived in Honeysuckle Cottage, on the Green, when his father Walter was getting very old and infirm. He inherited the Cottage when Walter died and lived there afterwards; his policewoman daughter, Rosemary, moved in with him. Apparently there is a memorial to her dog, Winston, in the garden! I cannot find any reference to her living at Hollowtree flats.
Honeysuckle was later occupied by Tim and Siobhan Hathaway, and now by Adam and Ian.
So it seems to me that David didn’t own Hollowtree Farmhouse (no idea who dies!) but did own the farmland and farm buildings.
I thought that the 5 episodes might all have been joyous wedding occasions then heard 4 weddings plus Joe’s “wake” - however it also was a lighthearted yet moving episode especially hearing Joe right at the end. Bless 😇 and of course a play on the film 4 weddings and a funeral!
ReplyDeleteALERT:- Sunday nights episode is at 8PM‼️ Then returns to normal time theme of the week major events that affect personal lives. Starting with Lockdown at Brookfield no not now 2001 foot and mouth....
My guide is still showing 7PM.
DeleteThings must have changed, since it was printed.
Thanks for the info.
Next week's episodes, look interesting and I am looking forward to hearing them again.
I remember the 2001 outbreak really well, but it was the 1967 one, which made the greatest impact on me, as a 12yr old youngster.
DeleteI cannot remember F+M in TA, well yet, so it will be interesting, to revisit.
I would so loved to have heard, how Ambridge, celebrated this special VE day.
ReplyDeletePerhaps, it will be told, as a recollection by some, later on.
One can but hope.
or how it should have been done, which is more relevant.
DeleteSorry to say Spiceycushion I have very little to contribute towards your Hollowtree questions. Vaguely remember Nelson buying it but very little beyond that.
ReplyDeleteI hope you get your answers somehow.
Spicy: 10.20
ReplyDeleteJust an addendum to the Hollowtree question -
I have now looked at my three maps of Ambridge (all different editions) and none of them show a Hollowtree Farmhouse. The Hollowtree land and farm buildings are shown (and little pigs running around) but no Farmhouse.
All other buildings are shown, even Arkwright Hall, and Nightingale Farm, now rarely mentioned, but no Farmhouse at Hollowtree.
So it is a bit of a mystery to know what happened to it.
Sorry I cannot be if more help.
Have rechecked Sunday pm TA Miriam & yes 8pm. Special PM prog at 7pm - Boris to outline his road map regarding lockdown exit. Very slowly I would imagine.
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