Pierre les CorbeauxDecember 17, 2021 at 7:08 AM Hooray for Kirsty. At last Lynda has had some comeuppance and then had it rubbed in I did notice that Lynda managed a mention that she had been away to be awarded her MBE.Pompous and self aggrandizing at even the smallest chance. Let’s hope she has learned a lesson. ✌️
Archerphile - December 17, 2021 at 1:56 PM Yes, I picked up on that too Pierre. Just to make sure Stella knew she had been awarded a gong. That really is bad form!
Anneveggie - December 17, 2021 at 12:45 PM At last Kirsty stood up to Lynda. It was about time and let's hope Lynda will realize a few things about herself now.
Archerphile - December 17, 2021 at 5:12 PM At long last, last night there was mention of Vince having problems at the abattoir due to lack of staff And Stella actually spoke about problems at Berrow because they cannot get the pigs processed and will have to cull them on the farm TA catches up with an important farming story that’s been going on for months. (i do know it’s partially due to scripts being written weeks in advance, but a story that affects several characters in Ambridge could have been mentioned sooner I think)
AmbridgesMrsP - December 17, 2021 at 5:36 PM Heads up for next weeks ‘Feedback’ Kirsty will be telling the world what she really thinks about Lynda Snell.
AmbridgesMrsP - December 17, 2021 at 5:42 PM Maryellen - your last point about Stella. That was my reference to the clue being in Weaver, and Mia barking up the wrong tree. Sigourney Weaver being a lesbian icon.
Please forgive me if I'm repeating myself but who on earth would enjoy working in an abbatoir? What particular qualities would one need to possess to do that job? A shortage of workers doesn't surprise me as I'm surprised they can get anyone to do it.
The shortage is due to so many EU workers having gone back to their own countries post-Brexit and very few British workers having the stomach for the job!
There are lots of jobs that British workers don’t want to do, like picking vegetables in a cold, wet, muddy field. I suppose it is because we have had foreign workers to do these jobs for so long that our own youth cannot contemplate having to undertake such uncomfortable occupations. Much prefer to sit in front of a computer I suppose, and who can blame them?
Although many characters missing, or popping in now + again, I am missing Joy. She I thought, would be well involved with The Mysteries, and could give Linda a run for her money.
To add, Why is Pat so obsessed with clearing all the clutter out of Tom's old bedroom? Why can't Tom + Natasha go into Helen's room, now that she + her boys have moved out - or is that just too easy.
To add - I am not liking one iota, this Ambridge build up to Christmas, as it is revolving around Linda's ego... When was the usual Green Christmas festive lights switch on, the making of Christmas Puddings + Cakes, along with mentions of festive nights in The Bull, Advent + traditional Carol services etc. Have these been mentioned in passing, so I have missed the normal Ambridge Christmas events...
Ugh! What an awful, awful episode, I don’t thing I can bear one more episode of listening to Lynda acting like a martinet, bullying the staff (Kirsty) into doing her dirty work, playing tricks to get what she wants and sweeping all before her like some modern day Boudicca!
And then Usha and Alan having a right barney because he is too busy to admire her Christmas decorations, what does she expect of a Vicar with several parishes to serve at Christmas time? Is this all that Usha has been brought back into the cast for, to row with Alan and walk out on him at Christmas?
I thought the storyline and the scriptwriting tonight was very poor. And Lynda is becoming an unbearable character !
Yes indeed. I had never thought of Usha before as someone who would be so stroppy. I realise we are living in more modern times but I can remember the days when being a vicar's wife was very similar to being a farmer's wife, and the former helped with things like running children's groups, cooking for fetes and everything else, and the farmer's wife helped with whatever needed doing on the farm. It was accepted that by marrying a man doing that kind of work it became your vocation as well. I think vicars nowadays have an impossible amount of work to do, caring for several churches and their congregations, and I have known two incredible vicars who regarded anyone in need of help, not just their congregations, as their responsibility to help. I think Usha was being very petty and unreasonable.
Janice, it will be interesting to hear OWiaS's take on this, but my experience has been that times have changed. My present lady Rev is single, but until now the wife of every incumbent I've worked with has had her own full-time job as well as chipping in with the traditional background stuff, helping with the Sunday School, making pavlovas for functions, or wherever else her own personal abilities could contribute - or not, as in one particular case. Mind you, he was a very strange individual who I think probably wouldn't have wanted his wife too close to some of his activities.
When we moved here, OWiaS made the mistake of seeing a job that needed to be done but wasn't, and did it. 'Tis intersting how many people are quite happy to put up with something not being done at all but, when someone does actually do it, will have plenty of views on how it ought to be done better ... By virtue of my inefficiency, several of those early jobs have since been shed. So now I'm in charge of the toddler groups and other children's work including, since this year, our very small Sunday school. Since 2020 I have actually been paid, yahay! Oh yes, I answer the vicarage phone a lot (we don't have a staffed church office). At one stage I think I knew the first names of all the local funeral directors. I refuse to have anything to do with flower arranging or catering!
Increasingly, vicar's spouses tend to have paid employment outside the church, so it is harder for the congreagtion to treat them as an unpaid member of the clergy. When I was growing up, the vicar's wife came on Sundays, was a member of the drama group, and did nowt else. Her argument was that she was Jo Bloggs, not The Vicar's Wife. Most of us seem to find some middle ground between the two.
Yes, OMiaS is ridiculously busy at present. But so am I. So we tend to share the grumpiness between us : )
Well!! A guest appearance from Usha in order for her to be writen straight out again. I assume that was her Archers swan song. At least she got one most are just never heard of again. I suspect Alan will end up like The Vicar of Dibley and have 3 Christmas dinners 🤣 Also will The Mysteries have any audience - the whole village appears to be in it be way or another now!
I remember Usha ‘going all peculiar’ when she was rejected for the cricket team because she couldn’t handle the ball - which she couldn’t, but she chose to regard it as a racist snub. So her character has a history of poor treatment by the scriptwriters! I’m surprised at Amy, though.
It was indeed an awful episode for all the resons given above. It was a waste of 15 minutes of my life which is not retrievable. I do not keep up with who the script writers are but i am convinced that whoever was "responsible?"for last night's travesty should be encouraged to join a queue at their local labour exchange.
I too really disliked last nights episode. Dreadful dreadful Lynda, bullying Kirsty and yet again getting her own way regardless of any one else’s needs or opinions, and then gleefully reiterating how important she is. Lynda has become a thorn in the side of the Archers as well as it’s listeners, and then to cap it all, Usher returning only to flounce off in a huff, and not even a legitimate huff !
Who was responsible for this very unpleasant episode. I sincerely hope this situation does not continue throughout the week.
Sarnia says: surely we all get days, weeks or sometimes longer periods which could be described as 'unpleasant episodes'? I know I do, but unfortunately there is never a named scriptwriter for me to blame. Ambridge obviously has its rough patches like everywhere else. We'll have to wait and see how it all pans out.
Even as silly as Susan can be, surely she would not care so much about making 'an entrance' and being jealous of Lily. Clarrie had the right attitude towards her pettiness. I agree with others that Usha was unnecessarily unpleasant to her husband. What a nasty piece of work.
I was also very surprised and disappointed in the way both Usha and Amy treated Allan.After all these years together,they must be aware of the many pressures on him over Christmastide.At least Usha told Allan she loved him in her parting shot.
...especially after watching the news of a certain very expensive divorce case in which one party was described as a 'nasty piece of work'. Is Usha really as bad as that?
OWiaS I had to chuckle at your remark. Console yourself with the thought that Christmas services mean a lot to regular attenders especially if they live alone. We haven't got midnight mass this year and I shall miss it, but I'm sure in that lovely untouched Ambridge world Alan will manage to hold one.
I am only listening to the Sunday Omnibus these days, so my next catch up will be on Boxing Day, but this will be probably be much later via Sounds, sadly. How I wish for a real traditional Ambridge Christmas episode, with a Church Service along with the bells ringing out, Carols being sung, and all just wishing each other:- Happy Christmas to every-one.
I don't think Usha is a nasty piece of work, but I was certainly pretty shocked at her attack on Alan. And it seemed to have come from nowhere, no run up to it, no hints of discourse between them. It just seemed very strange to me. And although Maryellen has reminded us that Usha has form, even so, it did seem out of character.
I am fed up with Susan’s attitude to her role in the play and her so called (but non- existant) helping Clarrie with the with the costumes. And is Neil involved in the play, or is he too busy culling pigs at Berrow?
Not so sure about that Mrs P - I reckon Susan’s kindness in letting Lily take the best costume will have a sting in the tail. I think she was up to something, not sure what yet, but there has to be a reason why she suddenly changed her mind about what she wanted to wear!
Glad that Alan and Usha had such a romantic reunion and also,in the end to hear the kinder side of Lynda. Every good wish to all fellow bloggers for a happy Christmas and a guid ew Year.🥂🏴
As Ev said earlier, there is a good side and a bad side to everyone,, and I’ve seen more evidence of Susan’s good side than her bad one. But it’s her bad side that gets listeners going, so an easy way for the scriptwriters to achieve a result. Personally, I blame the editor!
Happy Yuletide everyone! May 2022 bring peace and goodwill to all, in Ambridge too,
You are quite correct Maryellen. The Leopards in question are not Lynda and Susan but the editor and the script writer who has perpetrated this travesty
And all my very best wishes for a Happy Christmas and a Good New Year to Maryellen and Pierre and anyone else who only reads this particular blog. May we continue to read your insightful and entertaining posts in 2022.
I hope everyone on this blog has enjoyed the day, I am just thinking it’s time for. Xmas pudding, we had to stop and open presents after the main course of lunch as we were too full to eat any more, but now I could manage the pudding and brandy butter along with a glass of the Sauternes that is chilling in the fridge.
Why couldn't the skeleton go to the party? Because it had no body to go with. 😉 And apparently Charle Chaplin once came third in a Charlie Chaplin look a like contest!
What do sea monsters eat ? Fish and ships. And apparently : Humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas. I always wondered where the expression " You're bananas" came from!
Did anyone listen to the first of the Mystery Plays this afternoon? I did, not because I really wanted to listen to a Mystery Play ( not my religion) but to hear how all the Abridge characters performed in their roles.
I think Brian Blessed had stolen David Archers role, at least he was so loud and shouty, that’s what it sounded like. I found I couldn’t really follow the story because I was constantly trying to work out who was taking each part - not easy when most of the cast took 2 roles.
Not my type of entertainment at all, I’m afraid and I ended up hoping, fervently, that Ambridge returns to a traditional Panto next Christmas - preferably without any input from Lynda Snell!
I did listen to the Mystery Plays and agree with Archerphile's comment about a shouty Brian Blessed like performance from David. I found the whole thing entertaining but somehow strange.
Sorry but Rory (or the actor who plays him) sounded wooden yesterday. He sounded as if he was reading his lines with no feeling or as if he felt awkward about saying them.
This morning, I started to listen to The Ambridge Mystery Nativity play. I thought that it was extremely well acted, in that it was great to hear the cast, in differing ways. I thought Mia was a true revelation, as was David + Lilian. Jazzer amused me when he appeared as a King, out of breath saying something like "I have just been shepherding so give me a break". I admit though - that I got bored with it all, so I didn't listen to the entire performance. An hour was far too long and too much. I will not be listening to the Passion Play. I still don't understand as to why this is for New Year, as surely it should be kept for Easter. 🐣🐇🌷 with hot cross buns..
I have missed the traditional "slapstick" village panto though, which is always so very entertaining. For me this is far better suited for the village of Ambridge. Perhaps this will happen in 2022, with Joy in charge, for a change..🤣🤣😱 ..and also the lights switch on around The Green, which was missing this year. This I expect was just due to the cast rehearsing and recording, The Mysteries.
Have the SW been reading our blog! Usha and Mike finding their long forgotten voices at the same time…. So lovely to hear Mike (but another red herring marriage problem afoot?) in order for Mike to make an Ambridge return to live in (Bert’s) bungalow 🤔 Please can we have one am dram go smoothly I can’t bear anymore traumas.
I loved hearing about Mia and Salieri’s brilliant performances as Mary and donkey respectively, and also Susan’s grand entrance, engineered by Neil. I suppose we’ll never hear who her two extra attendants were or how their costumes were rustled up, but my guess is Emma and Poppy - and we know Susan is a dab hand at last minute alterations. More, please!
(One of my New Year resolutions is only to write approving comments on this blog, in order to maintain an upbeat tone for 2022!)
PS. I meant Keira rather than Poppy. I always enjoy listening to Susan because I like her way with words, and for some reason, the actor’s ‘put on ‘ voice doesn’t irritate me like some of the other put on voices, eg. Lynda's and Clarrie’s.
I haven’t heard the episode where Mike Tucker returns yet- hope to catch up tonight. But coincidentally I was listening to an old play by Dick Francis on Sounds the other day which featured many Archers actors including both Molloys, Terry and Philip, Pat Archer, Sid Perks and Pusscat’s ‘ Tiger’, playing a crook with an unmistakable voice. I guess this must have been from the days of the old BBC rep company when thé actors could appear in many different plays.
Maryellen. Forget that New Year resolution re this TA blog....Please ☺ I for one want to see you posting as normal. This is why I love this blog, as every-one gives their own individual thoughts. It would be SO boring, if all were to post the same and agree all the time. A difference of opinion is so needed, to just learn others interpretation of the TA S/L's. We all hear it in many differing ways...this is fascinating, well to me and I rethink my thoughts.
So, Mike will buy or rent The Brookfield Bungalow and come back to Ambridge permanently. Alice will go off on another bender after Ruairi told her the truth. Kirsty will finally recover from the Moss business Harrison will triumph as Jesus on the Cross.
I just wish there hadn’t been quite so much Christian propaganda, it mad me feel very uncomfortable.
With regards to the Christian propaganda, I found it quite comforting. I also was amazed…..the BBC actually including some original English religion instead of Muslims etc. I haven’t phrased that very well but I’m sure you’ll all get the gist. Just my opinion, as Miriam would say.
...and it is, after all, an English village in which the social structure typically centres on activities connected with the church. Some friends of ours moved to a village in Cambridgeshire some years ago, and within days Margaret, a confirmed atheist who had never been interested in flowers in her life, found herself happily ensconced in the flower rota. How to make friends at a stroke! Sarnia
I think (and hope) Mike is making another pop up appearance like he did once before. We’ve had quite a few pop ups recently - Iris, Leyla and Trevor - anyone I’ve forgotten? I remember him as rather boring, much like his son.
I would have thought Kirsty could get a place of her own - she has the rent from the Beechwood property to add to her salary, and her lifestyle seems to be zero! Her savings mucs be mounting.
Wow, was anyone else surprised by what Rory came out with at the end of that ep.? I was not expecting that but he has said what he truly feels and who could blame him. Words once spoken cannot be taken back and remain remembered by those who've been really hurt by them.
For some reason, I am not enjoying TA at the moment, which is strange for me. I was one who loved + really appreciated all, that was broadcast through the various lockdowns. Now, I only fully listen to the Sunday Omnibus, which is also leaving me a bit flat. Perhaps after "The Passion", the final Mysteries attempt has actually happened, then Ambridge will become much more normal again. This is my wish for TA 2022.
I was so sure that the new resident of the Brookfield Bungalow, would be Stella. Now I am not at all sure, so could it be Mike? He is a Bert-like character, if he returns to Ambridge, so to then continue with the veg. growing and all many things similar.. Mike, Vicky + Bethany would be wonderful inhabitants.
Oh Jennifer Ruairi has used you to get at Alice ensuring that you will always think of him as your darling boy therefore if Alice should decide to confide in you she will be told its all in her head and chances are the drinking will recommence alongside depression. I suggest she confides in Alan.
What Alice did was despicable but now R has stooped to her level without the dependence on drink to use as a reason for his behaviour. At the time because of the drink Alice’s true feelings came out regarding how badly learning of her father’s adulterous behaviour resulting in a baby and a boy at that had shocked and hurt her and made her jealous of R and insecure in herself? Quite a situation all round and to be a slow burning SL I feel.
I'm pretty certain Mike said that he was stopping at Grey Gables. He said something like 'Oliver wouldn't make a profit if they are the rates he is charging.' So there won't be an Ambridge Fairy after all! Or was I imagining it?
Mike and family are staying at Grey Gables at specially reduced rates for the duration of the Mysteries. Oliver played Fairy Godfather when Roy couldn't be Judas in the Plays because he had arranged to be with his family.in Birmingham at the time. This caused the director and producer great consternation until Oliver offered to bring Roy's family to Ambridge instead.
When Mike proposed staying to paint the bungalow for beer money, he told Ruth that Roy would put him up (whether he'd already consulted Roy, I don't know).
Happy New Year, everyone! May all the storylines have satisfactory endings!
...and I thought that Mike etc. were only visiting for the New Year weekend! Thanks for the info. as to why Mike was already in Ambridge, which I didn't expect.
The writer of the Guardian’s ‘A Month in Ambridge’ column thinks Stella is gay, based on the same reference to Weaver as a possible name for a dog that Mrs P quoted earlier on this blog.
I can think of two other reasons for choosing Weaver (1) after one of last year’s national icons, Jackie Weaver, who opened the Ambridge Summer Fete, and (2) after Kester Woodseaves, the Shropshire weaver-cum-hero of Mary Webb’s Precious Bane. Like me, Stella might have been an avid reader who read the novel in her teens after finding it among the books that belonged to previous generations - and like me, fallen in love with its hero.
Well yes, (2) is a bit unlikely, more than a bit. In fact. But, whatever its origin, I think Weaver is an excellent name for. a dog! I hope it’s a Jack Russell, my favourite.
Thanks Maryellen. Good to know that I wasn’t alone in my prediction. We may never find out the reason for ‘weaver’, or indeed whether Stella is gay, or not. We may speculate ( I did ) ( and not for the first time have I privately thought that she might be) but why should we speculate ? I look forward to a time when society accepts without question or speculation wherever anyone might be on a continuum of sexual orientation even though I am doubtful that I myself might ever be able to accept the ultimate continuum of gender fluidity. Many younger people already do so.
As far as Stella’s dog is concerned, I have no preference for the breed. Just get a dog Stella, call it Weaver, and be happy !
I hadn’t read the Guardian article, it was just my speculation. And I hadn’t heard it anywhere else either. But as soon as she mentioned the film and Sigourney Weaver the connection was there. Incidentally I’ve never seen the film, but I do clearly remember the interest in S W role in it within my circle of lesbian friends and acquaintances at the time.
Not picking a fight, I hope you understand, just clarifying.
Hello Mrs P - I’m afraid I was using ‘quote’ loosely. The Guardian feature only appeared yesterday, so if anything, the columnist was quoting you! Though more likely FaceBook, I imagine.
There has been quite a bit of speculation about Stella on FB’s Ambridge Addicts site too. Many people suggesting the name of Weaver is referring to Sigourney Weaver, a actress who is, apparently, a gay icon (whatever that means) Also, believe it or not, the fact that Stella invited Ruth for a drink and her seeming coolness to Usha when she joined Ruth (? Jealousy of Ruth already having a female friend!) and other incidences that I find very unconvincing.
This may be the SWs deliberately stirring up speculation of course and no doubt we shall learn more about Stella in future. Personally I’m not in the slightest concerned about her personal preferences, only about her efficiency as a farm manager.
I absolutely agree with you, Archerphile. Personally, I’d like to know what Stella is doing about Adam’s beloved herbal leys!
The speculative Stella/ Ruth relationship (which the Guardian columnist also mentioned, though not the Usha bit) may be a more common scenario than is generally realised - a friend of a friend who volunteered on a gay switchboard once said that many of the calls came from married women who found themselves attracted to another woman - but it’s not an ‘issue’ of national concern like those TA has previously explored.
I think I’ve said before that I don’t rate the current Guardian columnist as a TA critic or as a humorist. Her predecessor, Nancy Banks-Smith was so much wiser and funnier!
After my usual Sunday hourly listen, my only thought is:- Is Riuari still at University, or is he now just speculating in certain, dodgy deals? He is certainly not the person he once was. I describe him now, as being rather two faced, and not in a nice way. He seemed to be rather condascending to all, including Jennifer.
As for the speculation about Stella - I will wait + see/hear, before commenting -but it is an intriguing idea, and one to listen out for. The age of Stella is not known, but I imagine that she is mid 40's. As such, as an individual female, she might just be happy with her life as a female singleton.
Perhaps Stella is late 30's or early 40's only. I chose mid 40's, as she is getting on so well with Ruth + Usha. These are three, very like-minded and strong women, so it is no wonder that they are forming a friendship together. I hope it is just that, as after all, there is nothing wrong with this.
I still think that Stella, will end up with a rental lease for The Bungalow. As Usha wisely said, a commercial rent, will make a difference to Brookfield....
Hi, I’m listening to The Passion, just coming to the end, I have enjoyed it, I listened to The Nativity a few days ago but I don’t think that was as good, what I enjoyed most was “Some hay in a manger “ only 2 short episodes and very entertaining.
I wonder where Rex will end up living. My simple thoughts are:- a) Lodging with Stella in The Bungalow b) Lodging with Joy in her Beechwood home c) Lodging in Brookfield, when Josh then shares The Bungalow, with Stella... I think that I can surmise that, I personally don't want Rex to disappear - Toby Yes, but not Rex.
So that has now known, but when was it decided, in that Josh is the new resident of The Bungalow. I had hoped for something different and more controversial.
Pip will be delighted with the colour scheme, such a change from the magnolia of Rickyard Cottage. She will move into the bungalow with Toby and Rosie, suggesting to the quietly fuming Josh that he picks up a few extra tins to brighten Rickyard before he moves in.
I thought that a while back, when Toby was talking to Rex about the bungalow, that he said he might not carry on living with Pip & Rosie. In fact it sounded as though he was keen to move out and be more indépendant.
I’m certain that Josh just expects to move into the bungalow and I don’t believe for one minute that it has been actually agreed with Ruth & David.
And I am intrigued about Mike who seems to have an unhealthy food addiction, be desperate to get into everybody’s good books, and shows no sign of wanting to get back to Vicky and Bethany.
Yes, Archerphile, and several comments from Mike that suggest all is not well between him and Vicky. I hope these are just red herrings. Time will tell.
Ah Natasha’s debt is about to get an airing again before too long I feel, and get ready to be left holding baby Pat & Tony! Looking like Mike’s marriage is on the rocks too 🤔
If Josh is jumping the gun in respect of the bungalow,there will be big ructions at Brookfield as a result ,especially if Ruth & David have made other plans for the tenancy,Mike Tucker may find himself in the doghouse too for exceeding his brief by agreeing to change the colour scheme to Josh’s taste with the new paint. I also wondered about how Mike was managing to demolish so much food and drink,during the course of the day and then planned to have two substantial evening meals ,curry with Roy and rabbit pie at the Bull. A heart attack waiting to happen?
Tried to say, last night, about Mike. Same voice, obviously, but a far jokier character than his dour curmudgeonly persona in the past. And as well, putting himself about, as opposed to keeping himself more to himself, with the exception being his long friendship with Neil. Who is of course currently absent.
Well put Portia, regarding the food. Not the MikeTucker of old.
I immediately thought that Mike must be overweight now as he's eating way too much. He does sound much happier than the character I remember. Is he now happier away from his wife and daughter? I agree that the colour scheme will be a shock to others and that Josh is taking too much for granted.
I bet Vicky has Mike on a very healthy diet. No wonder he wants to stay on in Ambridge in the short term, to just enjoy the food + drink which he has been missing. He will go back to Vicky, Bethany and his life in Brum, with a full + satiated, belly. I think Mike is just enjoying Ambridge again, be it in the short term and will not now return.
I've just started listening to the Mysteries. Whatever is Lynda's accent supposed to be?! Even I could do a more convincing one, and I'm rubbish at maintaining accents.
I felt so very sorry for both Chris and Alice tonight. And I totally understand why she will now return to the bottle. But I also understand why Chris needs to move on with a divorce. It touched a nerve and a memory in me.
My heart sank when I heard Alice asking for the two large bottles of vodka.Is this her,(dangerous) plan to provide Chris with grounds for a quick divorce?
I thought it was Alice giving up : ( She worked so hard to make things up with Rauri who (rightly or wrongly) threw it all back in her face. She said she wanted a divorce from Chris but hadn't actually done anything about it. Now, it's suddenly becoming a reality. Not only that, but her drinking will be made public a ll over again, and the judge could decide she wasn't safe to have access to her daughter. I can imagine her thinking, 'I tried so hard and it did no good, what's the point?' I am no expert at addiction, but it seems to me that Alice is trying to get better for other people. I doubt she'll kick her alcoholism for good until she learns to love and accept herself. She needs to be in a place where she wants to help herself, not simply where she wants to please other people.
I agree with you,Maryellen.As things seemed to have settled on a even and amicable keel between them until Chris tried to kiss Alice previously,I had hoped that gradually they would find their way back to a possible reconciliation.It came as a big shock when Chris came out with his demand for a speedy divorce.,which threw the already u stable Alice.I do hope that my conjecture about the gin will not happen.As Lillian witnessed the confrontation,she may be able to prevent a tradgedy
Alice buying 2 bottles of Vodka, does not automatically mean that she will be drinking these... My simple question is why buy 2 at the same time, as one would be enough to set her onto the path of self-destruction again.
I still believe in Alice. However if she does relapse, which is not yet known if she does, then she will some-how get help and progress, in her own individual way.
The only reasonable alternative to drinking them herself that I can think of is buying them as a present for Lilian, but I thought gin was Lilian’s tipple not vodka, whereas we know vodka is Alice’s preference.
The reformed alcoholic in my family, did have a few slip ups after his re-hab. a lot of conselling, and talking to his supportive mentor, when he felt he wanted a drink. However, these were just short + sharp, and certainly not a bottle of Vodka! I wish Alice well, and she stays sober. Has Alice spoken to her support group etc??
I wish Chris hadn't forced the issue of divorce and just let things pan out for a bit. As Portia said previously, maybe they could have gradually found their way back together but it required patience and I suppose Chris has run out of that, particularly after being rebuffed by Alice. I do hope that somehow Alice can be prevented from drinking those bottles but it seems doubtful.
Sorry everyone but I wish we could ease off the Alice situation for a while and get back to some of the other on-going stories in Ambridgewhich are being neglected.
I found all the ‘sweethearts’ and ‘babes’ a bit unconvincing tonight. It’s not that long ago that Fallon was very anti-Alice, now she has become her ‘strength and stay’as our dear Queen would say. It certainly helped Alice but didn’t sound very natural to me.
Archerphile it was Amy wasn’t it? 🤔 she suggested going back to the vicarage to warm Alice up and said although Usha and Alan would be there they could go straight to her room but Alice declined. The “voice” issue raising its ugly head again maybe…..
Many moons ago I was an occasional poster but a daily lurker on the BBC Archers' comments board. When the BBC axed the whole thing I was among the early commenters on what was, I think, known as Ruthy's blog. Shortly after signing up I somehow got myself locked out (I'm an old person with limited tech knowledge) and never managed to get back in. Until today! I am so pleased to see so many user names from those heady days of what seems like a lifetime ago. And it is really pleasing to see that the generosity, good manners and general camaraderie has survived its transfer to a new home. I am so pleased to have found you all again. I will be a regular visitor and intermittant poster once again.
EnZed My browser opens each day on that first day of Ruthy’s blog, so i see your first post each day and often wonder what happened to you. So pleased to see you have been able to return and I do hope you can continue to post. Several of us, including me currently, have had great difficulties in being locked out and unable to return, so your not alone. Welcome back EnZed MrsP
Whenever I come onto this blog, I still get the page of "Italians Singing", in what was the Pandemic start. It is easy to skip over..but I can't change my access 🙅♀️ I am just pleased that I can still join in with my Archers/Ambridge thoughts, in my own and simple way. 😂🤭🙀
The "Italians Singing" was the new page on March 14th, 2020. I still do not know why it always comes up, before I can access both these wonderful current Archers sites. It is not a problem, but it is a mystery as to why I can't by-pass it.
As to Alice, she is doing well and long that this remains. I feel that she, Chris + Martha could still unite again. Chris seems to be anti- any true reconcilliation, but what will he then do in the long term. Martha is the pawn in this set-up, who is still not yet a year old. Should she be destined to be brought up by her busy Dad, her Grandma Susan, her Grandma Jennifer, without her Mum?? Alice still needs to be involved with her daughter.
Welcome back EnZed. Mike sounds like the same actor to me Lanjan but I could be wrong. I'm so relieved that Alice was able to resist those two bottles. Hoping this is the turning point she so badly needs. Well done Amy.
Mike to me, still seems the original Mike as we knew and loved. He is just enjoying a short interlude in Ambridge, and why not? We all need a form of escapism now + again, and this is Mike's turn. He, I so hope, will realise that his true life is in Brum, with his family, allottment + his local pub... He has made a new life which he seems content with.
Archerphile…..I toatally agree with you re the seeethearts and babes. It was Amy. Nearly needed a bucket it was so vomit making. Pat and Tony getting on my wick too. Never used to. He’s such a ruddy misery. He has the tone of voice that makes you want to slit your wrists.
I felt that Amy managed Alice very well, focused on the important points and said the right things about the positive aspects of Alice’s progress so far. Amy is Alice’s friend and I believe that young women today do speak to each other in these luvvy ways that I too find difficult to take. But even so I didn’t feel it was overdone in this instance. She also enabled Alice to take control of her own actions by disposing of the empty bottle herself having gained Alice’s agreement to pour the vodka away. She was kind, considerate and not judgmental. Many of the interpersonal skills Amy used will have been learned in her work as a midwife. My personal experience of person centred treatment of any problem leads me to feel that this was a well written and well performed episode.
Sorry everyone, I really thought it was Fallon with Alice last night, I think Lady R was right - I just can’t tell the difference in their voices, except that Amy uses ‘sweetheart’ quite a lot. Probably from her midwifery days.
EnZed - it’s so lovely to se e you back with us, and well done for negotiating your way through the impenetrable wifi! I do wonder how many other original BBC bloggers are out there, unable to join in. I had dreadful trouble recently using my iPad to post here but now seem able to use Safari browser again more easily than Chrome. Goodness only knows why! I look forward to reading your comments again. Archerphile
All I can say is:- Go Alice. She needs to get back to work which will help her. Why is Jennifer being so against this, even saying I need to talk to your Dad, about this. Surely it is now purely up to Stella, the new Home Farm Manager, if Alice has a suitable and viable job, to return to again.
What is it about Ambridge that so many of the younger generation don't have proper careers? Some because they never got started, others who gave them up in spite of several having good qualifications. Amy and Alice being the latest casualties of the Ambridge curse.
What a good point, as they all have great nights out etc. and many like Jazzer and Tracey, must be on the minimum basic wage scale. As to Pheobe, what is her income? At least Kirsty has the rent from Helen. I always have wondered, as to how do the likes of Roy, as an example, pay the utility/heating bills, council tax, food bills etc, which are ever increasing.
Yes, they do seem to lack ambition and/or staying power, which is what makes Tom and Natasha so different. Perhaps they’re afraid to leave the enclave in case they get disappeared!
I'm only an occasional contributor but continue to enjoy reading the comments on this blog. Cheshire Cheese's observation about the younger generation's lack of established employment raises one of my bugbears about The Archers: the totally unrealistic Ambridge economy! I've lived in an English village for almost 40 years and very few people actually work there (with hardly anyone in farming). Most get in their cars and drive to jobs in cities and towns, some quite near, some far away. And most when they become adults move away completely. In Ambridge, Brenda's situation is the realistic one!
But then there would be no further generations of Archers to justify the name of the programme and they'd have to call it something else! An everyday story of commuterfolk?
The Archers is unusual in the soap world for being named after a family rather than the setting. A hangover from when it started I presume, think “Mrs Dale’s diary” and “Dr Finlay’s casebook”
It was a hangover from the days of ‘old wireless ’ and has morphed into what we consider today as ‘soaps’. It is The Archers, a tale of a farming family, their extended family, some of them also farmers, and the village that they all live in as well as some of the other residents of that village. Many of the other residents of that village probably do go off in their cars each day to work elsewhere, but they are the silent ones.
Ex-Londoner does make a good point though that Ambridge is unrealistic, but isn’t that the point for most of us. An unrealistic but (sometimes ) ideal vision of a community that folds itself around us. I think that sums it up for me.
I have always liked it as a tale of a farming family. I should imagine that most of the residents of the Beechwood estate travel out of Ambridge to work.
I love The Archers for a very simple reason, which is that it is NOT a typical village, today. It is still an idyllic place, where I for one would love to live. 1) The generation of familes stay together, well mostly. 2) Partnerships are formed, but these always manage to find suitable properties to rent or buy, within their incomes, be it for their personal/business lives , or just both 3) Apart from the Beechwood Estate, there are no further housing developments 4) The farming communities are still thriving, along with some diversities eg The Brookfield Barn, The Bridge Farm Shop etc. 5) Grey Gables and The Bull are still providing leisure, dining, drinking facilities.
My point is:- Long may Ambridge continue in its norn idyllic way, to keep us entertained in the best way.
Really, with the White Witch still in charge? Or do you mean a proper winter, after Aslan's return?
There's an idea for the next Ambridge production! I vote Ms Woolley for the White Witch. Eddie and Clarrie would have to be the beavers - unless Clarrie has thrown her sewing machine into the Am after all the stress of costume making.
Owias, yes, with the White Witch. I love snow, don't mind a bit of benign danger, especially if it involves Turkish Delight, and I would love be to lodge with the beavers. I would cast Lillian as the White Witch, and Roy and Kirsty as the Beavers
Didnt used to be pure escapism though. It was originally promoted as a way the government could disseminate the latest advice on agriculture to the farming community, but done in a friendly way that would keep them listening. We heard the best way for Dan to increase his yields of wheat or the latest ideas in pig rearing That’s why my Parents started listening, to get the latest thoughts on poultry production and which fertiliser was best for growing cabbages!
But it is far from that nowadays days, though I still regard it as a topical programme about a recognisable group of residents in a village like mine. It is most definitely not pure escapism for me!
Another long post, as now gone AWOL after posting, which took ages to write! No sign of it, so is now in the internet ether. Oh Well, it was probably worthless anyway 😪
The gist was, how The Archers has changed since its inception, as to what it meant at that time.
It is now just a story of the residents of a village, with all the Ambridge and inhabitants ups + downs, which are shown in very many different ways. Some like, others don't, but all posters are so different.
I love reading so many differing thoughts + ideas. As said before, I learn a lot and lets me listen in a different way. I am still a newbie, as my Archers listens are still just 34 years..
I'm not sure how long I've been listening, although as I remember the fire in the stable so it must over 60 years,off and on. I can still hear the shouting and Phil's panic-stricken voice in my head. However, any understanding I have of life in an English village has been gleaned from watching television, so I've never been able to identify with the characters. It's just a long-running programme which has often been part of the fabric of my listening.
Like you Sarnia I started listening over 60 years ago, but I did have gaps during my working life when I didn't listen. My father, a farmer, listened to it for the same reasons Archerfile's parents did, and I sat listening with him from a very young age. So I suppose the Archers for me reminds me of happy peaceful times with my dad.
Because The Archers replaced Dick Barton ( ?) my father wasn’t going “ to have that rubbish on “ so we weren’t allowed to listen. Then we went to visit his brother ( posh ) and lo and behold the brother was a devotee. When we returned home, the Archers came with us. And stayed ! Like others there were gaps, but I’ve now been listening consistently since at least when Tony and Pat got together.
As per usual, I really enjoyed TA Omnibus this morning. Not many comments except:- a) How unbelievable Chris was, demanding an immediate divorce, for no realistic reason for the haste. b) What is Mike up to, delaying his leaving Ambridge, whilst tucking in to all foods available? (pun intented). c) Has Ruth + David seen The Bungalow, as done under Josh's colours? d) How will Pat, Tony, Natasha + Tom (plus sprog) settle down together? It seems that Nat + Tom are almost taking over at Bridge Farm, but then is this the point, with Pat's 70th birthday so soon?
I feel that TA is now starting a new, yet realistic change, in that other generations are now becoming far more prominent. Diversity is always happening, so this also applies to Ambridge, be it rightly or wrongly..😱
I remember Tony being born. He is called Anthony William Daniel. I was listening when Doris and the first Dan were around. Must have had a period when I stopped listening -didn't have a radio when I was a student or when I rented a room in a house -£2 a week I think it was -when I went to teach in Leicester.
I started listening whilst feeding First Baby in a Shoe. I was quite proud when baby started to recognise the theme tune. Sadly, none of the smaller shoe dwellers have maintained the listening habit. OMiaS used to listen but got fed up with a storyline a few years ago and stopped. Lightweight!
I thought Brian was about to burst into tears! I was willing Stella not to be swayed by his rhetoric.. Surely Alice could find something to occupy her outside Home Farm, even if it has to be voluntary. Perhaps she could join Adam at Bridge Farm for some of her spare time.
Pat was being very ungracious, I get that it must be difficult when they have finally been getting used to their own space, but surely the house is big enough for them to work around each other.
After a catch up, I am curious as to Bridge Farm. It seems it has just one bathroom, which Natasha seems to be now monopolising. My question is - How did they manage with Helen and her boys, Lee when he stayed over, plus Johnny when he also lived there? There didn't seem a problem then.
So The Archers twins gene, has reared up again (Shula/Kenton, Lily/Freddie) This time it is with Tom + Natasha, It will be interesting if they are still living in Bridge Farm. Surely this is why they now need to find a home of their own to suit them, but then there will be no free help! Will Pat + Tony be able cope with baby twins, alongside their own lives, such as the cows and the dairy?
ReplyDeletePierre les CorbeauxDecember 17, 2021 at 7:08 AM
Hooray for Kirsty. At last Lynda has had some comeuppance and then had it rubbed in
I did notice that Lynda managed a mention that she had been away to be awarded her MBE.Pompous and self aggrandizing at even the smallest chance. Let’s hope she has learned a lesson. ✌️
Archerphile - December 17, 2021 at 1:56 PM
Yes, I picked up on that too Pierre.
Just to make sure Stella knew she had been awarded a gong.
That really is bad form!
Anneveggie - December 17, 2021 at 12:45 PM
At last Kirsty stood up to Lynda. It was about time and let's hope Lynda will realize a few things about herself now.
Archerphile - December 17, 2021 at 5:12 PM
At long last, last night there was mention of Vince having problems at the abattoir due to lack of staff
And Stella actually spoke about problems at Berrow because they cannot get the pigs processed and will have to cull them on the farm
TA catches up with an important farming story that’s been going on for months.
(i do know it’s partially due to scripts being written weeks in advance, but a story that affects several characters in Ambridge could have been mentioned sooner I think)
AmbridgesMrsP - December 17, 2021 at 5:36 PM
Heads up for next weeks ‘Feedback’
Kirsty will be telling the world what she really thinks about Lynda Snell.
AmbridgesMrsP - December 17, 2021 at 5:42 PM
Maryellen - your last point about Stella.
That was my reference to the clue being in Weaver, and Mia barking up the wrong tree.
Sigourney Weaver being a lesbian icon.
Please forgive me if I'm repeating myself but who on earth would enjoy working in an abbatoir? What particular qualities would one need to possess to do that job? A shortage of workers doesn't surprise me as I'm surprised they can get anyone to do it.
ReplyDeleteThe shortage is due to so many EU workers having gone back to their own countries post-Brexit and very few British workers having the stomach for the job!
DeleteThere are lots of jobs that British workers don’t want to do, like picking vegetables in a cold, wet, muddy field. I suppose it is because we have had foreign workers to do these jobs for so long that our own youth cannot contemplate having to undertake such uncomfortable occupations. Much prefer to sit in front of a computer I suppose, and who can blame them?
Although many characters missing, or popping in now + again, I am missing Joy.
ReplyDeleteShe I thought, would be well involved with The Mysteries, and could give Linda a run for her money.
To add, Why is Pat so obsessed with clearing all the clutter out of Tom's old bedroom?
ReplyDeleteWhy can't Tom + Natasha go into Helen's room, now that she + her boys have moved out - or is that just too easy.
To add - I am not liking one iota, this Ambridge build up to Christmas, as it is revolving around Linda's ego...
ReplyDeleteWhen was the usual Green Christmas festive lights switch on, the making of Christmas Puddings + Cakes, along with mentions of festive nights in The Bull, Advent + traditional Carol services etc. Have these been mentioned in passing, so I have missed the normal Ambridge Christmas events...
Ugh!
ReplyDeleteWhat an awful, awful episode,
I don’t thing I can bear one more episode of listening to Lynda acting like a martinet, bullying the staff (Kirsty) into doing her dirty work, playing tricks to get what she wants and sweeping all before her like some modern day Boudicca!
And then Usha and Alan having a right barney because he is too busy to admire her Christmas decorations, what does she expect of a Vicar with several parishes to serve at Christmas time?
Is this all that Usha has been brought back into the cast for, to row with Alan and walk out on him at Christmas?
I thought the storyline and the scriptwriting tonight was very poor.
And Lynda is becoming an unbearable character !
Yes indeed. I had never thought of Usha before as someone who would be so stroppy. I realise we are living in more modern times but I can remember the days when being a vicar's wife was very similar to being a farmer's wife, and the former helped with things like running children's groups, cooking for fetes and everything else, and the farmer's wife helped with whatever needed doing on the farm. It was accepted that by marrying a man doing that kind of work it became your vocation as well.
DeleteI think vicars nowadays have an impossible amount of work to do, caring for several churches and their congregations, and I have known two incredible vicars who regarded anyone in need of help, not just their congregations, as their responsibility to help.
I think Usha was being very petty and unreasonable.
Janice, it will be interesting to hear OWiaS's take on this, but my experience has been that times have changed. My present lady Rev is single, but until now the wife of every incumbent I've worked with has had her own full-time job as well as chipping in with the traditional background stuff, helping with the Sunday School, making pavlovas for functions, or wherever else her own personal abilities could contribute - or not, as in one particular case. Mind you, he was a very strange individual who I think probably wouldn't have wanted his wife too close to some of his activities.
DeleteWhen we moved here, OWiaS made the mistake of seeing a job that needed to be done but wasn't, and did it. 'Tis intersting how many people are quite happy to put up with something not being done at all but, when someone does actually do it, will have plenty of views on how it ought to be done better ...
DeleteBy virtue of my inefficiency, several of those early jobs have since been shed. So now I'm in charge of the toddler groups and other children's work including, since this year, our very small Sunday school. Since 2020 I have actually been paid, yahay!
Oh yes, I answer the vicarage phone a lot (we don't have a staffed church office). At one stage I think I knew the first names of all the local funeral directors.
I refuse to have anything to do with flower arranging or catering!
Increasingly, vicar's spouses tend to have paid employment outside the church, so it is harder for the congreagtion to treat them as an unpaid member of the clergy. When I was growing up, the vicar's wife came on Sundays, was a member of the drama group, and did nowt else. Her argument was that she was Jo Bloggs, not The Vicar's Wife. Most of us seem to find some middle ground between the two.
Yes, OMiaS is ridiculously busy at present. But so am I. So we tend to share the grumpiness between us : )
Well!! A guest appearance from Usha in order for her to be writen straight out again. I assume that was her Archers swan song. At least she got one most are just never heard of again.
ReplyDeleteI suspect Alan will end up like The Vicar of Dibley and have 3 Christmas dinners 🤣
Also will The Mysteries have any audience - the whole village appears to be in it be way or another now!
She sounded different to me. Or was that simply that she's been absent for so long that I've forgotten what she sounds like?
DeleteI remember Usha ‘going all peculiar’ when she was rejected for the cricket team because she couldn’t handle the ball - which she couldn’t, but she chose to regard it as a racist snub. So her character has a history of poor treatment by the scriptwriters! I’m surprised at Amy, though.
ReplyDeleteIt was indeed an awful episode for all the resons given above. It was a waste of 15 minutes of my life which is not retrievable. I do not keep up with who the script writers are but i am convinced that whoever was "responsible?"for last night's travesty should be encouraged to join a queue at their local labour exchange.
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ReplyDeleteWell,I’m back again it seems, after having been locked out again.
ReplyDeleteI too really disliked last nights episode.
ReplyDeleteDreadful dreadful Lynda, bullying Kirsty and yet again getting her own way regardless of any one else’s needs or opinions, and then gleefully reiterating how important she is.
Lynda has become a thorn in the side of the Archers as well as it’s listeners, and then to cap it all, Usher returning only to flounce off in a huff, and not even a legitimate huff !
Who was responsible for this very unpleasant episode.
I sincerely hope this situation does not continue throughout the week.
Sorry but the writer is Naylah Ahmed and she is responsible for the whole week!
ReplyDeleteGod help us then. Conflict on the menu all week.
DeleteThanks Spicey
Sarnia says: surely we all get days, weeks or sometimes longer periods which could be described as 'unpleasant episodes'? I know I do, but unfortunately there is never a named scriptwriter for me to blame.
DeleteAmbridge obviously has its rough patches like everywhere else. We'll have to wait and see how it all pans out.
I was rather hoping that Keri Davies would be writing the Christmas episodes.
DeleteEven as silly as Susan can be, surely she would not care so much about making 'an entrance' and being jealous of Lily. Clarrie had the right attitude towards her pettiness.
ReplyDeleteI agree with others that Usha was unnecessarily unpleasant to her husband. What a nasty piece of work.
I was also very surprised and disappointed in the way both Usha and Amy treated Allan.After all these years together,they must be aware of the many pressures on him over Christmastide.At least Usha told Allan she loved him in her parting shot.
ReplyDeleteI'm beginning to feel a certain sympathy for Usha ...
Delete...especially after watching the news of a certain very expensive divorce case in which one party was described as a 'nasty piece of work'. Is Usha really as bad as that?
DeleteOWiaS I had to chuckle at your remark. Console yourself with the thought that Christmas services mean a lot to regular attenders especially if they live alone. We haven't got midnight mass this year and I shall miss it, but I'm sure in that lovely untouched Ambridge world Alan will manage to hold one.
DeleteI am only listening to the Sunday Omnibus these days, so my next catch up will be on Boxing Day, but this will be probably be much later via Sounds, sadly.
ReplyDeleteHow I wish for a real traditional Ambridge Christmas episode, with a Church Service along with the bells ringing out, Carols being sung, and all just wishing each other:-
Happy Christmas to every-one.
The script writers have been watching too much vicar of Dibley!!
ReplyDeleteI don't think Usha is a nasty piece of work, but I was certainly pretty shocked at her attack on Alan. And it seemed to have come from nowhere, no run up to it, no hints of discourse between them.
ReplyDeleteIt just seemed very strange to me.
And although Maryellen has reminded us that Usha has form, even so, it did seem out of character.
I am fed up with Susan’s attitude to her role in the play and her so called (but non- existant) helping Clarrie with the with the costumes.
ReplyDeleteAnd is Neil involved in the play, or is he too busy culling pigs at Berrow?
Yes, where is Neil ?
DeleteWe haven't heard from him for some time now.
Susan is just being Susan. Self absorbed a lot of the time, but also thoughtful of others at other times.
Not so sure about that Mrs P - I reckon Susan’s kindness in letting Lily take the best costume will have a sting in the tail. I think she was up to something, not sure what yet, but there has to be a reason why she suddenly changed her mind about what she wanted to wear!
DeleteHa! I thought so! SUSAN gets here revenge and is not being kind after all.
DeleteGlad that Alan and Usha had such a romantic reunion and also,in the end to hear the kinder side of Lynda.
ReplyDeleteEvery good wish to all fellow bloggers for a happy Christmas and a guid ew Year.🥂🏴
Re Lynda’s good side. “ a leopard cannot change its spots”
ReplyDeletePerhaps that might apply to Susan too?
As Ev said earlier, there is a good side and a bad side to everyone,, and I’ve seen more evidence of Susan’s good side than her bad one. But it’s her bad side that gets listeners going, so an easy way for the scriptwriters to achieve a result. Personally, I blame the editor!
ReplyDeleteHappy Yuletide everyone! May 2022 bring peace and goodwill to all, in Ambridge too,
You are quite correct Maryellen. The Leopards in question are not Lynda and Susan but the editor and the script writer who has perpetrated this travesty
DeleteWishing everyone on this side of the blog a very happy Christmas, and a good year to follow.🎄🎉🎅
ReplyDeleteAnd all my very best wishes for a Happy Christmas and a Good New Year to Maryellen and Pierre and anyone else who only reads this particular blog.
ReplyDeleteMay we continue to read your insightful and entertaining posts in 2022.
Good wishes and peace to all.
ReplyDeleteI hope everyone on this blog has enjoyed the day, I am just thinking it’s time for. Xmas pudding, we had to stop and open presents after the main course of lunch as we were too full to eat any more, but now I could manage the pudding and brandy butter along with a glass of the Sauternes that is chilling in the fridge.
ReplyDeleteWhy couldn't the skeleton go to the party? Because it had no body to go with. 😉
ReplyDeleteAnd
apparently Charle Chaplin once came third in a Charlie Chaplin look a like contest!
What do sea monsters eat ? Fish and ships.
ReplyDeleteAnd apparently :
Humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas. I always wondered where the expression " You're bananas" came from!
Did anyone listen to the first of the Mystery Plays this afternoon?
ReplyDeleteI did, not because I really wanted to listen to a Mystery Play ( not my religion) but to hear how all the Abridge characters performed in their roles.
I think Brian Blessed had stolen David Archers role, at least he was so loud and shouty, that’s what it sounded like. I found I couldn’t really follow the story because I was constantly trying to work out who was taking each part - not easy when most of the cast took 2 roles.
Not my type of entertainment at all, I’m afraid and I ended up hoping, fervently, that Ambridge returns to a traditional Panto next Christmas - preferably without any input from Lynda Snell!
Yes I listened last night. Very confusing. Will listen to the second one just to torture myself.
DeleteI am very well behind, in that there is at least a week of TA, which I have not yet listenend to. It seems it is not worth catching up with though.
ReplyDeleteI did listen to the Mystery Plays and agree with Archerphile's comment about a shouty Brian Blessed like performance from David. I found the whole thing entertaining but somehow strange.
ReplyDeleteSorry but Rory (or the actor who plays him) sounded wooden yesterday. He sounded as if he was reading his lines with no feeling or as if he felt awkward about saying them.
This morning, I started to listen to The Ambridge Mystery Nativity play.
ReplyDeleteI thought that it was extremely well acted, in that it was great to hear the cast, in differing ways.
I thought Mia was a true revelation, as was David + Lilian.
Jazzer amused me when he appeared as a King, out of breath saying something like "I have just been shepherding so give me a break".
I admit though - that I got bored with it all, so I didn't listen to the entire performance.
An hour was far too long and too much.
I will not be listening to the Passion Play. I still don't understand as to why this is for New Year, as surely it should be kept for Easter. 🐣🐇🌷 with hot cross buns..
I might though, still listen to the end of the Nativity performance not yet heard. This is out of pure curiosity.
DeleteI have missed the traditional "slapstick" village panto though, which is always so very entertaining. For me this is far better suited for the village of Ambridge.
ReplyDeletePerhaps this will happen in 2022, with Joy in charge, for a change..🤣🤣😱
..and also the lights switch on around The Green, which was missing this year. This I expect was just due to the cast rehearsing and recording, The Mysteries.
....and why there was such a fill in, with the Alan + Usha situation....
DeleteIt makes sense now.
Have the SW been reading our blog!
ReplyDeleteUsha and Mike finding their long forgotten voices at the same time…. So lovely to hear Mike (but another red herring marriage problem afoot?) in order for Mike to make an Ambridge return to live in (Bert’s) bungalow 🤔
Please can we have one am dram go smoothly I can’t bear anymore traumas.
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ReplyDeleteI loved hearing about Mia and Salieri’s brilliant performances as Mary and donkey respectively, and also Susan’s grand entrance, engineered by Neil. I suppose we’ll never hear who her two extra attendants were or how their costumes were rustled up, but my guess is Emma and Poppy - and we know Susan is a dab hand at last minute alterations. More, please!
ReplyDelete(One of my New Year resolutions is only to write approving comments on this blog, in order to maintain an upbeat tone for 2022!)
PS. I meant Keira rather than Poppy. I always enjoy listening to Susan because I like her way with words, and for some reason, the actor’s ‘put on ‘ voice doesn’t irritate me like some of the other put on voices, eg. Lynda's and Clarrie’s.
DeleteI haven’t heard the episode where Mike Tucker returns yet- hope to catch up tonight.
ReplyDeleteBut coincidentally I was listening to an old play by Dick Francis on Sounds the other day which featured many Archers actors including both Molloys, Terry and Philip, Pat Archer, Sid Perks and Pusscat’s ‘ Tiger’, playing a crook with an unmistakable voice.
I guess this must have been from the days of the old BBC rep company when thé actors could appear in many different plays.
Which one was that? I love Dick Francis but I have obviously missed this one.
DeleteMiriam, it was ‘ Whip Hand,’ in the Crime section of Drama on sounds. Just a warning, it is a bit grisly in places, especially the final episode ! 😧
DeleteMaryellen.
ReplyDeleteForget that New Year resolution re this TA blog....Please ☺
I for one want to see you posting as normal. This is why I love this blog, as every-one gives their own individual thoughts.
It would be SO boring, if all were to post the same and agree all the time.
A difference of opinion is so needed, to just learn others interpretation of the TA S/L's.
We all hear it in many differing ways...this is fascinating, well to me and I rethink my thoughts.
...which I often do, as a result of posts here, from so many.
DeleteSo, Mike will buy or rent The Brookfield Bungalow and come back to Ambridge permanently.
ReplyDeleteAlice will go off on another bender after Ruairi told her the truth.
Kirsty will finally recover from the Moss business
Harrison will triumph as Jesus on the Cross.
I just wish there hadn’t been quite so much Christian propaganda, it mad me feel very uncomfortable.
I agree with all your first points Archerphile.
DeleteWith regards to the Christian propaganda, I found it quite comforting. I also was amazed…..the BBC actually including some original English religion instead of Muslims etc. I haven’t phrased that very well but I’m sure you’ll all get the gist.
Just my opinion, as Miriam would say.
ReplyDelete...and it is, after all, an English village in which the social structure typically centres on activities connected with the church. Some friends of ours moved to a village in Cambridgeshire some years ago, and within days Margaret, a confirmed atheist who had never been interested in flowers in her life, found herself happily ensconced in the flower rota. How to make friends at a stroke!
Sarnia
I think (and hope) Mike is making another pop up appearance like he did once before. We’ve had quite a few pop ups recently - Iris, Leyla and Trevor - anyone I’ve forgotten? I remember him as rather boring, much like his son.
ReplyDeleteRandom thought: does Roy’s place have 4 bedrooms?
I expect the Ambridge fairy has waved her wand again, expanding Willow Farm to accommodate Mike. 😆
DeleteI would have thought Kirsty could get a place of her own - she has the rent from the Beechwood property to add to her salary, and her lifestyle seems to be zero! Her savings mucs be mounting.
DeletePTBY 11.38 - I agree with your points very much.
ReplyDeleteWow, was anyone else surprised by what Rory came out with at the end of that ep.? I was not expecting that but he has said what he truly feels and who could blame him. Words once spoken cannot be taken back and remain remembered by those who've been really hurt by them.
For some reason, I am not enjoying TA at the moment, which is strange for me. I was one who loved + really appreciated all, that was broadcast through the various lockdowns.
ReplyDeleteNow, I only fully listen to the Sunday Omnibus, which is also leaving me a bit flat.
Perhaps after "The Passion", the final Mysteries attempt has actually happened, then Ambridge will become much more normal again.
This is my wish for TA 2022.
I was so sure that the new resident of the Brookfield Bungalow, would be Stella.
DeleteNow I am not at all sure, so could it be Mike? He is a Bert-like character, if he returns to Ambridge, so to then continue with the veg. growing and all many things similar..
Mike, Vicky + Bethany would be wonderful inhabitants.
Al but would it just be Mike?
DeleteOh Jennifer Ruairi has used you to get at Alice ensuring that you will always think of him as your darling boy therefore if Alice should decide to confide in you she will be told its all in her head and chances are the drinking will recommence alongside depression. I suggest she confides in Alan.
ReplyDeleteWhat Alice did was despicable but now R has stooped to her level without the dependence on drink to use as a reason for his behaviour. At the time because of the drink Alice’s true feelings came out regarding how badly learning of her father’s adulterous behaviour resulting in a baby and a boy at that had shocked and hurt her and made her jealous of R and insecure in herself? Quite a situation all round and to be a slow burning SL I feel.
I'm pretty certain Mike said that he was stopping at Grey Gables. He said something like 'Oliver wouldn't make a profit if they are the rates he is charging.'
ReplyDeleteSo there won't be an Ambridge Fairy after all!
Or was I imagining it?
Mike and family are staying at Grey Gables at specially reduced rates for the duration of the Mysteries. Oliver played Fairy Godfather when Roy couldn't be Judas in the Plays because he had arranged to be with his family.in Birmingham at the time. This caused the director and producer great consternation until Oliver offered to bring Roy's family to Ambridge instead.
DeleteWhen Mike proposed staying to paint the bungalow for beer money, he told Ruth that Roy would put him up (whether he'd already consulted Roy, I don't know).
Happy New Year, everyone! May all the storylines have satisfactory endings!
...and I thought that Mike etc. were only visiting for the New Year weekend!
DeleteThanks for the info. as to why Mike was already in Ambridge, which I didn't expect.
And Happy New Year from me too. Here’s hoping for a much better year for us all and a return 6 TA episodes a week!
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year to everyone!! Thank you Gary for keeping this blog going and in good order.
ReplyDeleteThe writer of the Guardian’s ‘A Month in Ambridge’ column thinks Stella is gay, based on the same reference to Weaver as a possible name for a dog that Mrs P quoted earlier on this blog.
ReplyDeleteI can think of two other reasons for choosing Weaver (1) after one of last year’s national icons, Jackie Weaver, who opened the Ambridge Summer Fete, and (2) after Kester Woodseaves, the Shropshire weaver-cum-hero of Mary Webb’s Precious Bane. Like me, Stella might have been an avid reader who read the novel in her teens after finding it among the books that belonged to previous generations - and like me, fallen in love with its hero.
Well yes, (2) is a bit unlikely, more than a bit. In fact. But, whatever its origin, I think Weaver is an excellent name for. a dog! I hope it’s a Jack Russell, my favourite.
Thanks Maryellen.
ReplyDeleteGood to know that I wasn’t alone in my prediction.
We may never find out the reason for ‘weaver’, or indeed whether Stella is gay, or not.
We may speculate ( I did ) ( and not for the first time have I privately thought that she might be) but why should we speculate ?
I look forward to a time when society accepts without question or speculation wherever anyone might be on a continuum of sexual orientation even though I am doubtful that I myself might ever be able to accept the ultimate continuum of gender fluidity.
Many younger people already do so.
As far as Stella’s dog is concerned, I have no preference for the breed.
Just get a dog Stella, call it Weaver, and be happy !
Maryellen, did I quote ?
ReplyDeleteI hadn’t read the Guardian article, it was just my speculation.
And I hadn’t heard it anywhere else either. But as soon as she mentioned the film and Sigourney Weaver the connection was there.
Incidentally I’ve never seen the film, but I do clearly remember the interest in S W role in it within my circle of lesbian friends and acquaintances at the time.
Not picking a fight, I hope you understand, just clarifying.
Hello Mrs P - I’m afraid I was using ‘quote’ loosely. The Guardian feature only appeared yesterday, so if anything, the columnist was quoting you! Though more likely FaceBook, I imagine.
DeleteThere has been quite a bit of speculation about Stella on FB’s Ambridge Addicts site too. Many people suggesting the name of Weaver is referring to Sigourney Weaver, a actress who is,
ReplyDeleteapparently, a gay icon (whatever that means)
Also, believe it or not, the fact that Stella invited Ruth for a drink and her seeming coolness to Usha when she joined Ruth (? Jealousy of Ruth already having a female friend!) and other incidences that I find very unconvincing.
This may be the SWs deliberately stirring up speculation of course and no doubt we shall learn more about Stella in future.
Personally I’m not in the slightest concerned about her personal preferences, only about her efficiency as a farm manager.
I absolutely agree with you, Archerphile. Personally, I’d like to know what Stella is doing about Adam’s beloved herbal leys!
DeleteThe speculative Stella/ Ruth relationship (which the Guardian columnist also mentioned, though not the Usha bit) may be a more common scenario than is generally realised - a friend of a friend who volunteered on a gay switchboard once said that many of the calls came from married women who found themselves attracted to another woman - but it’s not an ‘issue’ of national concern like those TA has previously explored.
I think I’ve said before that I don’t rate the current Guardian columnist as a TA critic or as a humorist. Her predecessor, Nancy Banks-Smith was so much wiser and funnier!
After my usual Sunday hourly listen, my only thought is:-
ReplyDeleteIs Riuari still at University, or is he now just speculating in certain, dodgy deals?
He is certainly not the person he once was. I describe him now, as being rather two faced, and not in a nice way. He seemed to be rather condascending to all, including Jennifer.
As for the speculation about Stella - I will wait + see/hear, before commenting -but it is an intriguing idea, and one to listen out for.
The age of Stella is not known, but I imagine that she is mid 40's. As such, as an individual female, she might just be happy with her life as a female singleton.
Perhaps Stella is late 30's or early 40's only. I chose mid 40's, as she is getting on so well with Ruth + Usha. These are three, very like-minded and strong women, so it is no wonder that they are forming a friendship together.
DeleteI hope it is just that, as after all, there is nothing wrong with this.
I still think that Stella, will end up with a rental lease for The Bungalow.
DeleteAs Usha wisely said, a commercial rent, will make a difference to Brookfield....
Hi, I’m listening to The Passion, just coming to the end, I have enjoyed it, I listened to The Nativity a few days ago but I don’t think that was as good, what I enjoyed most was “Some hay in a manger “ only 2 short episodes and very entertaining.
ReplyDeleteI heard part of the second episode while I was driving and plan to listen to both soon. Tamsin Grieg was the voice of the donkey.
Delete2nd episode of Some Hay in the Manger...
DeleteI listened to The Passion too. I thought it was very well done and acted.
ReplyDeleteHas Rex moved without team us? Ruth and Mike we’re discussing the bungalow as if it was standing empty.
ReplyDeleteTelling us!
DeleteI think that Rex is still around. I say this as didn't Ruth say to Mike, whilst discussing the make-over, something like - I'll let Rex knows?
DeleteI wonder where Rex will end up living. My simple thoughts are:-
ReplyDeletea) Lodging with Stella in The Bungalow
b) Lodging with Joy in her Beechwood home
c) Lodging in Brookfield, when Josh then shares The Bungalow, with Stella...
I think that I can surmise that, I personally don't want Rex to disappear - Toby Yes, but not Rex.
is Rex doomed to be a perpetual lodger? (Same goes for Kirsty.). At least Emma showed more ambition!
DeleteSo that has now known, but when was it decided, in that Josh is the new resident of The Bungalow.
ReplyDeleteI had hoped for something different and more controversial.
I took it that Josh had jumped the gun and will be in big trouble when his family finds out.
DeleteI thought that too, Maryellen and I hope the outcome will be as you suspect.
DeleteMaryellen - that makes so much sense.
DeleteI seem to have also jumped the gun...🤭
I was simply confused.
DeleteNo mention of Josh being given residence of the bungalow before tonight.
Where did that come from - was my thought.
An interesting thought from you Maryellen !
You could be right.
And I agree with both Pierre and Maryellen…… big trouble looming, if your prediction is correct.
DeleteI did though have a feeling, or premonition this evening about Pat and Tony.
I felt we were being prepared for the death of one of them.
I hope it was a random thought and does not come to fruition.
Pip will be delighted with the colour scheme, such a change from the magnolia of Rickyard Cottage. She will move into the bungalow with Toby and Rosie, suggesting to the quietly fuming Josh that he picks up a few extra tins to brighten Rickyard before he moves in.
DeleteI thought that a while back, when Toby was talking to Rex about the bungalow, that he said he might not carry on living with Pip & Rosie.
DeleteIn fact it sounded as though he was keen to move out and be more indépendant.
I’m certain that Josh just expects to move into the bungalow and I don’t believe for one minute that it has been actually agreed with Ruth & David.
And I am intrigued about Mike who seems to have an unhealthy food addiction, be desperate to get into everybody’s good books, and shows no sign of wanting to get back to Vicky and Bethany.
Yes, Archerphile, and several comments from Mike that suggest all is not well between him and Vicky. I hope these are just red herrings. Time will tell.
DeleteAh Natasha’s debt is about to get an airing again before too long I feel, and get ready to be left holding baby Pat & Tony! Looking like Mike’s marriage is on the rocks too 🤔
ReplyDeleteIf Josh is jumping the gun in respect of the bungalow,there will be big ructions at Brookfield as a result ,especially if Ruth & David have made other plans for the tenancy,Mike Tucker may find himself in the doghouse too for exceeding his brief by agreeing to change the colour scheme to Josh’s taste with the new paint.
ReplyDeleteI also wondered about how Mike was managing to demolish so much food and drink,during the course of the day and then planned to have two substantial evening meals ,curry with Roy and rabbit pie at the Bull. A heart attack waiting to happen?
Lost in the ether again….
DeleteSo
Testing
Tried to say, last night, about Mike.
DeleteSame voice, obviously, but a far jokier character than his dour curmudgeonly persona in the past. And as well, putting himself about, as opposed to keeping himself more to himself, with the exception being his long friendship with Neil. Who is of course currently absent.
Well put Portia, regarding the food.
Not the MikeTucker of old.
Vicky’s influence, perhaps? He’s still rather boring (imo).
DeleteI immediately thought that Mike must be overweight now as he's eating way too much. He does sound much happier than the character I remember. Is he now happier away from his wife and daughter?
DeleteI agree that the colour scheme will be a shock to others and that Josh is taking too much for granted.
I bet Vicky has Mike on a very healthy diet. No wonder he wants to stay on in Ambridge in the short term, to just enjoy the food + drink which he has been missing.
ReplyDeleteHe will go back to Vicky, Bethany and his life in Brum, with a full + satiated, belly.
I think Mike is just enjoying Ambridge again, be it in the short term and will not now return.
That sounds very plausible to me, Miriam!
DeleteOh Alice : (
ReplyDeleteI thought tonight’s two scenarios were equally unconvincing.
ReplyDeletePoor Susan!!
ReplyDeleteI would have put the potential customer straight, how rude.
I'm sure Adam didn't mean to sound so smug, but it made me cringe.
I've just started listening to the Mysteries. Whatever is Lynda's accent supposed to be?!
ReplyDeleteEven I could do a more convincing one, and I'm rubbish at maintaining accents.
I felt so very sorry for both Chris and Alice tonight.
ReplyDeleteAnd I totally understand why she will now return to the bottle. But I also understand why Chris needs to move on with a divorce. It touched a nerve and a memory in me.
What a very sad story line this is.
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ReplyDeleteOh goodness it either doesn’t show that it’s published, and then it’s there on repeat, or else one gets an OOPS !
ReplyDeleteGrrrrrr !
My heart sank when I heard Alice asking for the two large bottles of vodka.Is this her,(dangerous) plan to provide Chris with grounds for a quick divorce?
ReplyDeleteI thought it was Alice giving up : (
ReplyDeleteShe worked so hard to make things up with Rauri who (rightly or wrongly) threw it all back in her face.
She said she wanted a divorce from Chris but hadn't actually done anything about it. Now, it's suddenly becoming a reality. Not only that, but her drinking will be made public a ll over again, and the judge could decide she wasn't safe to have access to her daughter.
I can imagine her thinking, 'I tried so hard and it did no good, what's the point?'
I am no expert at addiction, but it seems to me that Alice is trying to get better for other people. I doubt she'll kick her alcoholism for good until she learns to love and accept herself. She needs to be in a place where she wants to help herself, not simply where she wants to please other people.
I won’t repeat, OwiaS, because you’ve echoed my thoughts precisely.
DeleteShe’s given up.
No point in going further.
The end !
If that’s the case, then Chris has driven Alice to this extremity. She was succeeding in staying sober until he forced her hand.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you,Maryellen.As things seemed to have settled on a even and amicable keel between them until Chris tried to kiss Alice previously,I had hoped that gradually they would find their way back to a possible reconciliation.It came as a big shock when Chris came out with his demand for a speedy divorce.,which threw the already u stable Alice.I do hope that my conjecture about the gin will not happen.As Lillian witnessed the confrontation,she may be able to prevent a tradgedy
ReplyDeleteAlice buying 2 bottles of Vodka, does not automatically mean that she will be drinking these...
ReplyDeleteMy simple question is why buy 2 at the same time, as one would be enough to set her onto the path of self-destruction again.
Could be Alice works on the princilpe, " Don't force it, get a bigger hammer!"
DeleteI still believe in Alice. However if she does relapse, which is not yet known if she does, then she will some-how get help and progress, in her own individual way.
DeleteThe only reasonable alternative to drinking them herself that I can think of is buying them as a present for Lilian, but I thought gin was Lilian’s tipple not vodka, whereas we know vodka is Alice’s preference.
DeleteThe reformed alcoholic in my family, did have a few slip ups after his re-hab. a lot of conselling, and talking to his supportive mentor, when he felt he wanted a drink.
DeleteHowever, these were just short + sharp, and certainly not a bottle of Vodka!
I wish Alice well, and she stays sober.
Has Alice spoken to her support group etc??
I wish Chris hadn't forced the issue of divorce and just let things pan out for a bit. As Portia said previously, maybe they could have gradually found their way back together but it required patience and I suppose Chris has run out of that, particularly after being rebuffed by Alice. I do hope that somehow Alice can be prevented from drinking those bottles but it seems doubtful.
ReplyDeleteThat listen was a welcome surprise.
ReplyDeleteTop marks Amy.
Well Miriam, you were right!
ReplyDeleteWell done Alice.
And well done Amy for being such a gentle yet firm friend.
Sorry everyone but I wish we could ease off the Alice situation for a while and get back to some of the other on-going stories in Ambridgewhich are being neglected.
ReplyDeleteI found all the ‘sweethearts’ and ‘babes’ a bit unconvincing tonight. It’s not that long ago that Fallon was very anti-Alice, now she has become her ‘strength and stay’as our dear Queen would say. It certainly helped Alice but didn’t sound very natural to me.
Archerphile it was Amy wasn’t it? 🤔 she suggested going back to the vicarage to warm Alice up and said although Usha and Alan would be there they could go straight to her room but Alice declined. The “voice” issue raising its ugly head again maybe…..
DeleteI’m weary of dreary McCreary and his pal Jim, so happy for any storyline involving item to be neglected! In favour of Alice!
DeleteMany moons ago I was an occasional poster but a daily lurker on the BBC Archers' comments board. When the BBC axed the whole thing I was among the early commenters on what was, I think, known as Ruthy's blog. Shortly after signing up I somehow got myself locked out (I'm an old person with limited tech knowledge) and never managed to get back in. Until today! I am so pleased to see so many user names from those heady days of what seems like a lifetime ago. And it is really pleasing to see that the generosity, good manners and general camaraderie has survived its transfer to a new home. I am so pleased to have found you all again. I will be a regular visitor and intermittant poster once again.
ReplyDeleteWelcome back!
DeleteThank you Spicycushion. Your name is one I remember. Strange, really, because I can hardly remember what I did two hours ago these days.
DeleteEnZed
DeleteMy browser opens each day on that first day of Ruthy’s blog, so i see your first post each day and often wonder what happened to you.
So pleased to see you have been able to return and I do hope you can continue to post.
Several of us, including me currently, have had great difficulties in being locked out and unable to return, so your not alone.
Welcome back EnZed
MrsP
Whenever I come onto this blog, I still get the page of "Italians Singing", in what was the Pandemic start. It is easy to skip over..but I can't change my access 🙅♀️
DeleteI am just pleased that I can still join in with my Archers/Ambridge thoughts, in my own and simple way. 😂🤭🙀
The "Italians Singing" was the new page on March 14th, 2020.
DeleteI still do not know why it always comes up, before I can access both these wonderful current Archers sites.
It is not a problem, but it is a mystery as to why I can't by-pass it.
As to Alice, she is doing well and long that this remains. I feel that she, Chris + Martha could still unite again. Chris seems to be anti- any true reconcilliation, but what will he then do in the long term.
Martha is the pawn in this set-up, who is still not yet a year old.
Should she be destined to be brought up by her busy Dad, her Grandma Susan, her Grandma Jennifer, without her Mum??
Alice still needs to be involved with her daughter.
Yes ,welcome back NZed.
ReplyDeleteAm I right in thinking that the "Mike " we have now is not the same person we had when they went to live in Brum?
Welcome back EnZed.
ReplyDeleteMike sounds like the same actor to me Lanjan but I could be wrong.
I'm so relieved that Alice was able to resist those two bottles. Hoping this is the turning point she so badly needs. Well done Amy.
Mike to me, still seems the original Mike as we knew and loved. He is just enjoying a short interlude in Ambridge, and why not?
ReplyDeleteWe all need a form of escapism now + again, and this is Mike's turn.
He, I so hope, will realise that his true life is in Brum, with his family, allottment + his local pub...
He has made a new life which he seems content with.
I wonder how Brenda is, and what she is now doing.
DeleteArcherphile…..I toatally agree with you re the seeethearts and babes. It was Amy. Nearly needed a bucket it was so vomit making.
ReplyDeletePat and Tony getting on my wick too. Never used to. He’s such a ruddy misery. He has the tone of voice that makes you want to slit your wrists.
I felt that Amy managed Alice very well, focused on the important points and said the right things about the positive aspects of Alice’s progress so far.
ReplyDeleteAmy is Alice’s friend and I believe that young women today do speak to each other in these luvvy ways that I too find difficult to take. But even so I didn’t feel it was overdone in this instance.
She also enabled Alice to take control of her own actions by disposing of the empty bottle herself having gained Alice’s agreement to pour the vodka away.
She was kind, considerate and not judgmental. Many of the interpersonal skills Amy used will have been learned in her work as a midwife.
My personal experience of person centred treatment of any problem leads me to feel that this was a well written and well performed episode.
Sorry everyone, I really thought it was Fallon with Alice last night, I think Lady R was right - I just can’t tell the difference in their voices, except that Amy uses ‘sweetheart’ quite a lot.
ReplyDeleteProbably from her midwifery days.
EnZed - it’s so lovely to se e you back with us, and well done for negotiating your way through the impenetrable wifi! I do wonder how many other original BBC bloggers are out there, unable to join in. I had dreadful trouble recently using my iPad to post here but now seem able to use Safari browser again more easily than Chrome. Goodness only knows why!
I look forward to reading your comments again.
Archerphile
All I can say is:-
ReplyDeleteGo Alice.
She needs to get back to work which will help her.
Why is Jennifer being so against this, even saying I need to talk to your Dad, about this.
Surely it is now purely up to Stella, the new Home Farm Manager, if Alice has a suitable and viable job, to return to again.
What is it about Ambridge that so many of the younger generation don't have proper careers? Some because they never got started, others who gave them up in spite of several having good qualifications. Amy and Alice being the latest casualties of the Ambridge curse.
ReplyDeleteWhat a good point, as they all have great nights out etc. and many like Jazzer and Tracey, must be on the minimum basic wage scale. As to Pheobe, what is her income?
DeleteAt least Kirsty has the rent from Helen. I always have wondered, as to how do the likes of Roy, as an example, pay the utility/heating bills, council tax, food bills etc, which are ever increasing.
Surely Roy at least has a good job with a secure income.
DeleteAnd presumably Kirsty pays rent as his lodger.
Yes, they do seem to lack ambition and/or staying power, which is what makes Tom and Natasha so different. Perhaps they’re afraid to leave the enclave in case they get disappeared!
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DeleteI'm only an occasional contributor but continue to enjoy reading the comments on this blog. Cheshire Cheese's observation about the younger generation's lack of established employment raises one of my bugbears about The Archers: the totally unrealistic Ambridge economy! I've lived in an English village for almost 40 years and very few people actually work there (with hardly anyone in farming). Most get in their cars and drive to jobs in cities and towns, some quite near, some far away. And most when they become adults move away completely. In Ambridge, Brenda's situation is the realistic one!
DeleteBut then there would be no further generations of Archers to justify the name of the programme and they'd have to call it something else! An everyday story of commuterfolk?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what The Archers is an everyday story of thes days Sarnia, there doesn't seem to be much farming in it any more.
DeletePeople who happen to live in a village?
DeleteThe Archers is unusual in the soap world for being named after a family rather than the setting. A hangover from when it started I presume, think “Mrs Dale’s diary” and “Dr Finlay’s casebook”
DeleteThink you’ve got it in one there KP.
DeleteIt was a hangover from the days of ‘old wireless ’ and has morphed into what we consider today as ‘soaps’.
It is The Archers, a tale of a farming family, their extended family, some of them also farmers, and the village that they all live in as well as some of the other residents of that village.
Many of the other residents of that village probably do go off in their cars each day to work elsewhere, but they are the silent ones.
Ex-Londoner does make a good point though that Ambridge is unrealistic, but isn’t that the point for most of us.
An unrealistic but (sometimes ) ideal vision of a community that folds itself around us.
I think that sums it up for me.
I have always liked it as a tale of a farming family. I should imagine that most of the residents of the Beechwood estate travel out of Ambridge to work.
ReplyDeleteI love The Archers for a very simple reason, which is that it is NOT a typical village, today.
ReplyDeleteIt is still an idyllic place, where I for one would love to live.
1) The generation of familes stay together, well mostly.
2) Partnerships are formed, but these always manage to find suitable properties to rent or buy, within their incomes, be it for their personal/business lives , or just both
3) Apart from the Beechwood Estate, there are no further housing developments
4) The farming communities are still thriving, along with some diversities eg The Brookfield Barn, The Bridge Farm Shop etc.
5) Grey Gables and The Bull are still providing leisure, dining, drinking facilities.
My point is:-
Long may Ambridge continue in its norn idyllic way, to keep us entertained in the best way.
It is just pure escapism, after all.
DeleteHear, hear, Miriam. I've had more than enough realism of my own to be going on with these last few years, thank you.
DeleteIf I fancied escaping to a fictional place, it certainly wouldn’t be Ambridge! Bad for my blood pressure!
DeleteNor me either, Maryellen. My retreat of choice would be a Greek island (naturally), but Ambridge is cheaper and there is no risk of infection.
ReplyDeleteSarnia.
Narnia in the snow for me.
ReplyDeleteReally, with the White Witch still in charge? Or do you mean a proper winter, after Aslan's return?
DeleteThere's an idea for the next Ambridge production! I vote Ms Woolley for the White Witch.
Eddie and Clarrie would have to be the beavers - unless Clarrie has thrown her sewing machine into the Am after all the stress of costume making.
Owias, yes, with the White Witch.
DeleteI love snow, don't mind a bit of benign danger, especially if it involves Turkish Delight, and I would love be to lodge with the beavers.
I would cast Lillian as the White Witch, and Roy and Kirsty as the Beavers
Well said Miriam!(Jan 7th.)
ReplyDelete👋🏼👋🏼
Didnt used to be pure escapism though. It was originally promoted as a way the government could disseminate the latest advice on agriculture to the farming community, but done in a friendly way that would keep them listening.
ReplyDeleteWe heard the best way for Dan to increase his yields of wheat or the latest ideas in pig rearing
That’s why my Parents started listening, to get the latest thoughts on poultry production and which fertiliser was best for growing cabbages!
But it is far from that nowadays days, though I still regard it as a topical programme about a recognisable group of residents in a village like mine. It is most definitely not pure escapism for me!
Another long post, as now gone AWOL after posting, which took ages to write! No sign of it, so is now in the internet ether.
ReplyDeleteOh Well, it was probably worthless anyway 😪
The gist was, how The Archers has changed since its inception, as to what it meant at that time.
It is now just a story of the residents of a village, with all the Ambridge and inhabitants ups + downs, which are shown in very many different ways.
Some like, others don't, but all posters are so different.
This is the short version...🤣🤷♀️
I love reading so many differing thoughts + ideas. As said before, I learn a lot and lets me listen in a different way.
DeleteI am still a newbie, as my Archers listens are still just 34 years..
I'm not sure how long I've been listening, although as I remember the fire in the stable so it must over 60 years,off and on. I can still hear the shouting and Phil's panic-stricken voice in my head.
ReplyDeleteHowever, any understanding I have of life in an English village has been gleaned from watching television, so I've never been able to identify with the characters. It's just a long-running programme which has often been part of the fabric of my listening.
Like you Sarnia I started listening over 60 years ago, but I did have gaps during my working life when I didn't listen. My father, a farmer, listened to it for the same reasons Archerfile's parents did, and I sat listening with him from a very young age. So I suppose the Archers for me reminds me of happy peaceful times with my dad.
ReplyDeleteBecause The Archers replaced Dick Barton ( ?) my father wasn’t going “ to have that rubbish on “ so we weren’t allowed to listen.
ReplyDeleteThen we went to visit his brother ( posh ) and lo and behold the brother was a devotee. When we returned home, the Archers came with us. And stayed !
Like others there were gaps, but I’ve now been listening consistently since at least when Tony and Pat got together.
As per usual, I really enjoyed TA Omnibus this morning.
ReplyDeleteNot many comments except:-
a) How unbelievable Chris was, demanding an immediate divorce, for no realistic reason for the haste.
b) What is Mike up to, delaying his leaving Ambridge, whilst tucking in to all foods available? (pun intented).
c) Has Ruth + David seen The Bungalow, as done under Josh's colours?
d) How will Pat, Tony, Natasha + Tom (plus sprog) settle down together?
It seems that Nat + Tom are almost taking over at Bridge Farm, but then is this the point, with Pat's 70th birthday so soon?
Note to self;-
DeleteRemember, that this is a fictional radio continuing drama, and Not real. 🤭
What are you talking about Miriam? Of course it's real! ; )
DeleteI feel that TA is now starting a new, yet realistic change, in that other generations are now becoming far more prominent.
ReplyDeleteDiversity is always happening, so this also applies to Ambridge, be it rightly or wrongly..😱
I remember Tony being born.
ReplyDeleteHe is called Anthony William Daniel.
I was listening when Doris and the first Dan were around.
Must have had a period when I stopped listening -didn't have a radio when I was a student or when I rented a room in a house -£2 a week I think it was -when I went to teach in Leicester.
I started listening whilst feeding First Baby in a Shoe. I was quite proud when baby started to recognise the theme tune. Sadly, none of the smaller shoe dwellers have maintained the listening habit. OMiaS used to listen but got fed up with a storyline a few years ago and stopped. Lightweight!
DeleteThat was a fine bit of wheedling on Brian’s part tonight.
ReplyDeleteYes it was.
DeleteIt was also very nice to hear Brian’s voice again.
You're right about that Portia and he got results!
DeleteI do hope Natasha will be OK. Pat got on my nerves tonight, being so negative.
I thought Brian was about to burst into tears! I was willing Stella not to be swayed by his rhetoric.. Surely Alice could find something to occupy her outside Home Farm, even if it has to be voluntary. Perhaps she could join Adam at Bridge Farm for some of her spare time.
DeleteOops! I think that I have misread previous posts, so mine is now not in the right place 🤷♀️
DeleteNot a problem now, as my long written diatrube, hasn't appeared yet again.
DeleteIt might still "pop up", but doubtful.
Pat was being very ungracious, I get that it must be difficult when they have finally been getting used to their own space, but surely the house is big enough for them to work around each other.
ReplyDeleteTo precis my non published post:-
ReplyDeleteAlice to join with Aunty Lil + Justin, along with cousin Shula, in the new Stables project.
It will suit her.
Is Shula a cousin, or a 2nd one? I get so confused.
DeleteFirst cousin once removed.
DeleteAfter a catch up, I am curious as to Bridge Farm.
ReplyDeleteIt seems it has just one bathroom, which Natasha seems to be now monopolising.
My question is - How did they manage with Helen and her boys, Lee when he stayed over, plus Johnny when he also lived there?
There didn't seem a problem then.
Good point Miriam!
DeleteI suspect Natasha has more toiletries than Helen, the boys, Lee, Johny, Pat, Tony, Old Uncle Tom Cobley and all combined.
DeleteSo…… he is the old Mike after all !
ReplyDeleteGoing his own way, despite what others may say think or feel.
So The Archers twins gene, has reared up again (Shula/Kenton, Lily/Freddie) This time it is with Tom + Natasha, It will be interesting if they are still living in Bridge Farm. Surely this is why they now need to find a home of their own to suit them, but then there will be no free help!
ReplyDeleteWill Pat + Tony be able cope with baby twins, alongside their own lives, such as the cows and the dairy?
A moment of madness but - could Adam take over the Dairy and even Bridge Farm?
DeleteSounds like a very good idea Miriam.
DeleteWith Alice assisting perhaps.
Glad to see the pink trainers back, OWiaS. There's something whimsical and slightly off-the-wall about them that suits your sense of humour.
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